***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I had to see the site nurse last week when I was sick. I was left with with the understanding positive or not I need to do the same shit since i was exposed 6 feet mask etc. So I wasn't in a panic to go get tested because i would be doing the same shit positive or not sleeping in my tomb. I got tested today though because I want to go back to work.

That is true and I hope you get to feeling better.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Dunit35

Vaccine distribution at my Oklahoma location is going along smoothly. I’ve been watching hundreds of elderly roll through since 9am getting their shots. This event is for 65+ Aged people. I’ve seen all sorts of people from 2+ hours away. I’m guessing people are in and out in half an hour.

We did the same last week for first responders and health care workers.

I'm genuinely happy that it's working like this in some areas.

I'm also envious that things are moving at a snails pace here in NW Missouri.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by O.city

They're transferring her to Barnes in STL, think she has a small bleed but that it should be ok. Want her close to better service if it were to get worse.

2021 off to a great start. ****.

Sorry man , hope it stays minor. Do you know what type of bleed, subdural, subarachnoid, intracerebral?

[dirk digler]

UK is going into lockdown until mid Feb.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

UK is going into lockdown until mid Feb.

That sucks. Wales and Northern Ireland already locked down. Scotland just announced theirs a few hours ago. Best of luck to them.

[Donger]

Total Doses Distributed

15,418,500

Total Number of People Initiating Vaccination (1st Dose Received)

4,563,260

CDC | Updated: Jan 04 2021 As of 9:00am ET

Was hoping for a lot more than ~300,000 new vaccinations in two days.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

UK is going into lockdown until mid Feb.

That doesn't appear to help things for whatever reason. Look at CA and some others.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Donger

Total Doses Distributed

15,418,500

Total Number of People Initiating Vaccination (1st Dose Received)

4,563,260

CDC | Updated: Jan 04 2021 As of 9:00am ET

Was hoping for a lot more than ~300,000 new vaccinations in two days.

Hell, just preload some syringes and start poking people on the street

[BigRedChief]

Where’s this new idea to only give a 1/2 dose of the Moderna vaccine to young people? Why? Solving a problem that doesn’t exist.

How about working on solving the real issue, our issue isn’t a supply of the vaccine. The issue we have is millions of doses sitting in warehouses waiting to go into arms.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Where’s this new idea to only give a 1/2 dose of the Moderna vaccine to young people? Why? Solving a problem that doesn’t exist.

How about working on solving the real issue, our issue isn’t a supply of the vaccine. The issue we have is millions of doses sitting in warehouses waiting to go into arms.

...and millions of arms that WANT a vaccine

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That doesn't appear to help things for whatever reason. Look at CA and some others.

Their goal is to lockdown and vaccinate everyone in the top 4 priority groups. I think that is smart as long as you can do the vaccinations in that timeline, enforce the lockdown, and fund people and businesses.

Here in the US we haven't been able to do any of that.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Their goal is to lockdown and vaccinate everyone in the top 4 priority groups. I think that is smart as long as you can do the vaccinations in that timeline, enforce the lockdown, and fund people and businesses.

Here in the US we haven't been able to do any of that.

Sounds sketchy to me.....

We can't do that because I think in large part it might not be legal but who knows anymore

I mean you're essentially holding people hostage until they get vaccinated.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Donger

Total Doses Distributed

15,418,500

Total Number of People Initiating Vaccination (1st Dose Received)

4,563,260

CDC | Updated: Jan 04 2021 As of 9:00am ET

Was hoping for a lot more than ~300,000 new vaccinations in two days.

Is there data on how many have received the 2nd dose of Pfizer?

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by loochy

Hell, just preload some syringes and start poking people on the street

If they did that in Madrid or Barcelona I wonder if anyone would be expecting it....cause nobody expects the Spanish Inoculation!!!

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Sounds sketchy to me.....

We can't do that because I think in large part it might not be legal but who knows anymore

I mean you're essentially holding people hostage until they get vaccinated.

I agree we couldn't do that here.

Lockdown's are very hard to do here because it all depends on the state and whether they can enforce it or not. People are tired of them and ignore them anyway since there is no enforcement.