***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Well I mean it is NY so its understandable.

Why is that?

[RunKC]

Saw a NYT article about how the system online has been so bad for people trying to get vaccines set up. There’s no excuse for that with almost a year to prepare for this thing.

Not trying to be political with this but I think that they need to treat this like voting. Start using stadiums and event centers. Load them up with vaccines and give them out with cards.

Targeting people hasn’t worked as well. Maybe an all out splurge to the general public would be better?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Saw a NYT article about how the system online has been so bad for people trying to get vaccines set up. There’s no excuse for that with almost a year to prepare for this thing.

Not trying to be political with this but I think that they need to treat this like voting. Start using stadiums and event centers. Load them up with vaccines and give them out with cards.

Targeting people hasn’t worked as well. Maybe an all out splurge to the general public would be better?

Places are starting to use old Sears buildings among others.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Saw a NYT article about how the system online has been so bad for people trying to get vaccines set up. There’s no excuse for that with almost a year to prepare for this thing.

Not trying to be political with this but I think that they need to treat this like voting. Start using stadiums and event centers. Load them up with vaccines and give them out with cards.

Targeting people hasn’t worked as well. Maybe an all out splurge to the general public would be better?

Yes to the stadium plan and maybe an express line for people over 65...

[O.city]

You've gotta have experienced people there to monitor potential adverse reactions. It's ramping up fine, almost to a million per day.

[petegz28]

Let's look at it this way. There are "officially" 23m(ish) confirmed cases of Covid. There have been 10.2m(ish) injections already.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Saw a NYT article about how the system online has been so bad for people trying to get vaccines set up. There’s no excuse for that with almost a year to prepare for this thing.

Not trying to be political with this but I think that they need to treat this like voting. Start using stadiums and event centers. Load them up with vaccines and give them out with cards.

Targeting people hasn’t worked as well. Maybe an all out splurge to the general public would be better?

It's in process:

Mass vaccination centers being opened

And while expanding the list of who can get vaccinated, states are coming up with more options for where residents can get their shots.

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio is working on a plan to use the Yankee Stadium as a vaccination site, the mayor announced Wednesday.

"That plan is in motion,' he said, adding the city will release more details when the plan has been worked through.

De Blasio's announcement came about a day after he and New York Mets owner Steve Cohen said a 24-hour vaccine mega site will be set up at Citi Field in Queens later this month.

In Hawaii, officials said Wednesday they are opening two new Covid-19 mass vaccination sites, which they hope can in a few weeks be able to vaccinate between 3,000 and 4,000 people daily.

And in California, the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim is now Orange County's first "super" Covid-19 vaccination site. Hundreds of cars had lined up for its opening on Wednesday, CNN affiliate KCAL/KCBS reported.

The site will be able to vaccinate upwards of 7,000 people each day, Andrew Do, acting chairman of the county's Board of Supervisors said in a news conference Wednesday.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Donger

It's in process:

Mass vaccination centers being opened

And while expanding the list of who can get vaccinated, states are coming up with more options for where residents can get their shots.

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio is working on a plan to use the Yankee Stadium as a vaccination site, the mayor announced Wednesday.

"That plan is in motion,' he said, adding the city will release more details when the plan has been worked through.

De Blasio's announcement came about a day after he and New York Mets owner Steve Cohen said a 24-hour vaccine mega site will be set up at Citi Field in Queens later this month.

In Hawaii, officials said Wednesday they are opening two new Covid-19 mass vaccination sites, which they hope can in a few weeks be able to vaccinate between 3,000 and 4,000 people daily.

And in California, the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim is now Orange County's first "super" Covid-19 vaccination site. Hundreds of cars had lined up for its opening on Wednesday, CNN affiliate KCAL/KCBS reported.

The site will be able to vaccinate upwards of 7,000 people each day, Andrew Do, acting chairman of the county's Board of Supervisors said in a news conference Wednesday.

That will certainly help. Hopefully they start doing this is every major city. Get that thing rolling

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Donger

It's in process:

Mass vaccination centers being opened

And while expanding the list of who can get vaccinated, states are coming up with more options for where residents can get their shots.

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio is working on a plan to use the Yankee Stadium as a vaccination site, the mayor announced Wednesday.

"That plan is in motion,' he said, adding the city will release more details when the plan has been worked through.

De Blasio's announcement came about a day after he and New York Mets owner Steve Cohen said a 24-hour vaccine mega site will be set up at Citi Field in Queens later this month.

In Hawaii, officials said Wednesday they are opening two new Covid-19 mass vaccination sites, which they hope can in a few weeks be able to vaccinate between 3,000 and 4,000 people daily.

And in California, the Disneyland Resort in Anaheim is now Orange County's first "super" Covid-19 vaccination site. Hundreds of cars had lined up for its opening on Wednesday, CNN affiliate KCAL/KCBS reported.

The site will be able to vaccinate upwards of 7,000 people each day, Andrew Do, acting chairman of the county's Board of Supervisors said in a news conference Wednesday.

Sounds like a series of super spreader events that will get people infected before the vaccine even takes effect

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by loochy

Sounds like a series of super spreader events that will get people infected before the vaccine even takes effect

We're getting herd immunity one way or the other

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by petegz28

We're getting herd immunity one way or the other

Now they tell us?!

Head of Immunisation for @PHE_uk -Dr Ramsey announced to the Science & Technology Committee that England may follow a focused protection strategy, where protection is given to the vulnerable and the disease is allowed to circulate among the young where its not causing much harm. pic.twitter.com/WuRZLRXOpT

— Great Barrington Declaration (@gbdeclaration) January 13, 2021

[R Clark]

So any word on how they are doing on producing vaccine?will they be able have enough for every one get the second round?

[jdubya]

SF Bay Area in my county finally allowing signups for all older than 65. Signed my 87 year old parents up this morning and they are scheduled for Friday the 22nd. Funny thing is they live together and signed up at the same time but one gets their shot at one location at 0845hrs and the other gets their shot in the late afternoon at another location 20 miles from the first location. Derp

[Donger]

Originally Posted by R Clark

So any word on how they are doing on producing vaccine?will they be able have enough for every one get the second round?

I saw that BioNTech/Pfizer plan to produce 2 billion units now in 2021, up from 1.3 billion.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Regardless, it wouldn't be surprising I suppose. That's why they're only 95% effective.

Does being vaccinated reduce the seriousness of symptoms if someone does end up getting it?

I thought the idea behind the flu vaccine was that, even though its only 40% effective, it will prevent people from getting serious/dangerous cases if they do get it.