Houston hires Nick Caserio to be GM

[Coach]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

There absolutely needs to be a way to hold bad owners accountable for poor performance. It's crazy to think otherwise.

Well we did that. There was an organization called SOC (Save Our Chiefs) when the Pioli fiasco was spiraling out of control back then.

We flew banners on planes. We wore black for blacking out Arrowhead. We stopped going to games.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Coach

Well we did that. There was an organization called SOC (Save Our Chiefs) when the Pioli fiasco was spiraling out of control back then.

We flew banners on planes. We wore black for blacking out Arrowhead. We stopped going to games.

That was a general manager. For an owner who is very good at his job.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That was a general manager. For an owner who is very good at his job.

This is true, but the above still can be applied, because the owner will lose money if fans don't come to games, especially now in a pandemic.

I'm sure that Hunt's bottom line numbers took a hit one way or another in that year. And for a owner who is really smart, and did what he needed to do after the fact (meeting with Andy and honoring Andy's wishes that working with Pioli wasn't going to work). That has to be acknowledged, because Hunt could have simply ignored us and continue to push on with the Pioli bullshit narrative.

It just comes down to how the owner is perceived. Like the Bengals owner, he's a cheapskate bastard. Same applies to Bidwell at the time.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Coach

This is true, but the above still can be applied, because the owner will lose money if fans don't come to games, especially now in a pandemic.

I'm sure that Hunt's bottom line numbers took a hit one way or another in that year. And for a owner who is really smart, and did what he needed to do after the fact (meeting with Andy and honoring Andy's wishes that working with Pioli wasn't going to work). That has to be acknowledged, because Hunt could have simply ignored us and continue to push on with the Pioli bullshit narrative.

It just comes down to how the owner is perceived. Like the Bengals owner, he's a cheapskate bastard. Same applies to Bidwell at the time.

The problem with sports owners is they have no skin in the game. They don't lose money. They just make less when they lose. Many owners have made it an art to spend just cheap enough to put butts in seats

[Coach]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The problem with sports owners is they have no skin in the game. They don't lose money. They just make less when they lose. Many owners have made it an art to spend just cheap enough to put butts in seats

This is false. The owners do have skin in the game. They're the ones that is pushing for the 18 game schedule. They're the ones that pushed the playoff format change. They have skin in the game.

Most of their issues is the lack of empathy, lack of common sense, and poor timing in today's events. In this case, McNair's timing in this situation overall, is just lousy. Basically ignored all that money put into the search committee's recommendations, and went on its own way. That's just lousy planning/timing. Essentially, replacing a failed New England Patriot way with another New England Patriot way, that has a high probability of failure.

Finally, if you have a super star QB on your team, your best bet as an owner, should listen to him and get his feedback and take that into consideration, because if you don't (which happened in this case), not only you just alienate your best player, you also potentially alienate a lot of players on your team and potentional free agents. Nobody is going to touch Houston with a 10 foot pole.

[GloucesterChief]

Texans fans seem to be the in bargaining stage of grief right now. Trying to rationalize these series of events. Saying the media is wrong and that Easterby will not have any power under Caserio, etc. It is too bad they still have Patriot AIDS.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Coach

This is false. The owners do have skin in the game. They're the ones that is pushing for the 18 game schedule. They're the ones that pushed the playoff format change. They have skin in the game.

Most of their issues is the lack of empathy, lack of common sense, and poor timing in today's events. In this case, McNair's timing in this situation overall, is just lousy. Basically ignored all that money put into the search committee's recommendations, and went on its own way. That's just lousy planning/timing. Essentially, replacing a failed New England Patriot way with another New England Patriot way, that has a high probability of failure.

Finally, if you have a super star QB on your team, your best bet as an owner, should listen to him and get his feedback and take that into consideration, because if you don't (which happened in this case), not only you just alienate your best player, you also potentially alienate a lot of players on your team and potentional free agents. Nobody is going to touch Houston with a 10 foot pole.

Again, they have upside potential. They don't have downside risk. They're not going to lose money from owning a team. They just lose out on opportunities to make even more money. With revenue sharing and the insane public benefits theyre going to make money even if they suck for decades. By the way, the fans don't have power either because owners can threaten to leave the city. See kroenke and the Rams.

Talk about a cooshy situation. The NFL is an oligopoly but refuses to fire their owners. Ideally the cities that host nfl teams should hold owners accountable but they're afraid of the NFL moving their team. So they're protected on both ends.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Again, they have upside potential. They don't have downside risk. They're not going to lose money from owning a team. They just lose out on opportunities to make even more money. With revenue sharing and the insane public benefits theyre going to make money even if they suck for decades. By the way, the fans don't have power either because owners can threaten to leave the city. See kroenke and the Rams.

Talk about a cooshy situation. The NFL is an oligopoly but refuses to fire their owners. Ideally the cities that host nfl teams should hold owners accountable but they're afraid of the NFL moving their team. So they're protected on both ends.

I agree with you, but the owners would never agree to it for the simple reason that you never want a fish to leave the poker table. The more Cal McNairs there are in the league the easier it is for everyone else to win. Unless he's doing something that could actively cost them money (Donald Sterling), he's going to be around, because he's one less person to worry about taking competent coaches, executives, and players from the available pool.