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Old 01-22-2021, 06:49 AM   #1
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So, I'm not complaining about mahomes. I totally get that. Even if it wasn't a concussion, not a good look to get him back on the field.

But I still feel the concussion rules need to be re-thought. Just last week two superstar qbs left a playoff game with a concussion. As much as the rule claims to be about player safety you're inviting the next bountygate. A dirty defense can send hatchet men to lay a dirty hit on a qb knowing the huge advantage it gives to the defense. 15, yards or even an ejection are worth it if it hurts or ejects the qb. While I would start mahomes without hesitation it does make me nervous that the bills may play a little more dirty this week knowing our qb situation.

I don't know how you fix that. At the very least, at least expand the rules for sitting players (usually defense) out who cause a concussion. If the rules are going to be extra safe about putting players in concussion protocol then rules for the hitter should be extra strict.
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Old 01-22-2021, 06:52 AM   #2
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So, I'm not complaining about mahomes. I totally get that. Even if it wasn't a concussion, not a good look to get him back on the field.

But I still feel the concussion rules need to be re-thought. Just last week two superstar qbs left a playoff game with a concussion. As much as the rule claims to be about player safety you're inviting the next bountygate. A dirty defense can send hatchet men to lay a dirty hit on a qb knowing the huge advantage it gives to the defense. 15, yards or even an ejection are worth it if it hurts or ejects the qb. While I would start mahomes without hesitation it does make me nervous that the bills may play a little more dirty this week knowing our qb situation.

I don't know how you fix that. At the very least, at least expand the rules for sitting players (usually defense) out who cause a concussion. If the rules are going to be extra safe about putting players in concussion protocol then rules for the hitter should be extra strict.
I'm also rethinking players eating when they go to another teams city. A dirty team can just have the hotel/restaurant staff poison the food so the QB is out with food poisoning. Why isn't anyone talking about this?!??

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Old 01-22-2021, 07:02 AM   #3
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I'm also rethinking players eating when they go to another team. A dirty team can just have the hotel/restaurant staff poison the food so the QB is out with food poisoning. Why isn't anyone talking about this?!??
Wut? Nobody is stopping the players from playing or eating. We're talking about rules to prevent concussion. If a hotel has rules that could help prevent a rogue staff member poisoning someone of course you'd explore it.
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Old 01-22-2021, 07:24 AM   #4
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Wut? Nobody is stopping the players from playing or eating. We're talking about rules to prevent concussion. If a hotel has rules that could help prevent a rogue staff member poisoning someone of course you'd explore it.
I think his point might be that there's the same amount of evidence for people trying to poison Qbs as there is that people are trying to deliberately cause concussions for QBs.
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Old 01-22-2021, 07:43 AM   #5
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I think his point might be that there's the same amount of evidence for people trying to poison Qbs as there is that people are trying to deliberately cause concussions for QBs.
There is a ton of evidence that the saints were doing that during bountygate. And it wasn't a secret that lots of teams were doing it. Bountygate is especially important because they were rewarded for knocking players out of the game. And in their case, it worked as they knocked Warner out and practically put Favre in a wheelchair during their super bowl run.

I don't think all teams are that dirty. But these days it seems like lots of defenses are putting that little extra. The ravens get away with this shit all the time. You may not plan to put Mahomes in a concussion. But could they be coached to come in a little late or hit with a little extra mustard? Probably. Is the NFL going to be very strict about mahomes concussion protocol if he's even a little slow to get up? Absolutely. So yeah, why wouldn't that motivate a defense to play a little dirtier than usual.
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Old 01-23-2021, 05:42 AM   #6
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There is a ton of evidence that the saints were doing that during bountygate. And it wasn't a secret that lots of teams were doing it. Bountygate is especially important because they were rewarded for knocking players out of the game. And in their case, it worked as they knocked Warner out and practically put Favre in a wheelchair during their super bowl run.

I don't think all teams are that dirty. But these days it seems like lots of defenses are putting that little extra. The ravens get away with this shit all the time. You may not plan to put Mahomes in a concussion. But could they be coached to come in a little late or hit with a little extra mustard? Probably. Is the NFL going to be very strict about mahomes concussion protocol if he's even a little slow to get up? Absolutely. So yeah, why wouldn't that motivate a defense to play a little dirtier than usual.
Bountygate happened a decade ago. I am sure I can probably find one case in sports somewhere where a team got poisoned at a hotel as well.
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Bountygate happened a decade ago. I am sure I can probably find one case in sports somewhere where a team got poisoned at a hotel as well.
Why are we even comparing the two? poisoning doesn't happen often is because it is a serious crime. Because restaurants and hotels have safeguards to prevent it.

The saints weren't the only ones doing bountygate. They were the only ones that got caught. And the only reason it was a big deal was it involved money. You think by taking away a cash incentive defenses stopped targeting offensive players? Defenses know that knocking out a qb gives them a better shot at a super bowl. And they know by now ways to get around targeting rules to do it. There are defenses out there notorious for hitting extra late. Players who know how to play just borderline dirty enough. Lots of people think the clowney sack on Wentz last year was a great example of making a dirty tackle look borderline

I'm not saying it's a widespread issue. But look we've had three qbs in two years (lamar, mahomes, Jackson) exit playoff games due to concussion protocol. And there's nothing worse for the game then for playoff games to go on without the best players on the field.
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Wut? Nobody is stopping the players from playing or eating. We're talking about rules to prevent concussion. If a hotel has rules that could help prevent a rogue staff member poisoning someone of course you'd explore it.
It was a stupid response to your (no offense) stupid post. If the defense is sending "hatchet men" to purposely give Mahomes a concussion, why they hell would they care if those players were suspended.
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