***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by TLO

Still feeling the aches and pains, but they don't seem as bad as last night. My arm doesn't hurt as bad either. 7 hours or so out from my dose of Tylenol. Might try and get a little more sleep and then see how I feel.

May I ask why you seem to be trying to resist taking more Tylenol?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

May I ask why you seem to be trying to resist taking more Tylenol?

There is some debate on whether it is good practice to take Tylenol/Ibuprofen for side effects after the vaccine. The thought being that your body is having an immune reaction to the vaccine, so you don't want to hamper that in any way.

[O.city]

Lethargic as **** tonight

Gonna eat a little a lay down

[TLO]

Starting to approach that 36 hour mark. I think tomorrow I'll wake up and feel mostly back to normal. Truth be told I probably could have went about my work as usual today, but I'm glad I scheduled it as a day to rest if needed.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Lethargic as **** tonight

Gonna eat a little a lay down

Hopefully that's just a mix of the immune response plus a full day of work. I think I'd probably still be pretty fatigued if I had worked all day today.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by TLO

There is some debate on whether it is good practice to take Tylenol/Ibuprofen for side effects after the vaccine. The thought being that your body is having an immune reaction to the vaccine, so you don't want to hamper that in any way.

Gotcha. Somehow I've totally missed this until now.

[louie aguiar]

Johnson & Johnson submitted its one-shot Covid-19 vaccine for FDA authorization, saying it expects to supply 100 million doses to the U.S. in the first half of 2021 https://t.co/Xk23ZEFYcm

— The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) February 4, 2021

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

Hopefully that's just a mix of the immune response plus a full day of work. I think I'd probably still be pretty fatigued if I had worked all day today.

Hopefully

Just feel tired and a bit achy maybe. Not really noticeable

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by TLO

There is some debate on whether it is good practice to take Tylenol/Ibuprofen for side effects after the vaccine. The thought being that your body is having an immune reaction to the vaccine, so you don't want to hamper that in any way.

I'm no doctor, but ibuprofen/advil are anti-inflammatory and what I've read is along the lines of "with less inflammation, there may also be a lower immune response to the vaccine."

Acetaminophen/Tylenol isn't anti-inflammatory (but can still help with muscle aches and fever and so forth), so it's not going to have that same impact.

Again, not a doctor... but, you might research those separately and see what you find specifically for taking acetaminophen versus an anti-inflammatory.

[O.city]

Yeah take either. The effect isn’t enough to matter in regards to the immune response imo

['Hamas' Jenkins]

That data is not very strong at all. You can avoid them to be extra safe, but I am far from convinced.

[ghak99]

My grandmother passed out in the waiting room after her first injection. Paramedic said it was their third post injection call of the morning. She spent the next day very tired and couldn't eat anything, but is feeling better today. I highly doubt they'll convince her to go get the 2nd.

[ghak99]

I pulled into a town this afternoon and there was a bunch of people waiting in line all the way down the block at a gas station. It was very strange because right across the street the Casey's General store was completely empty. I left town a different direction and the Hy-Vee gas station was rowed up with cars all the way out into the regular Hy-Vee parking lot. Again, very strange because just down the road the other Casey's General store was completely empty.

Apparently, today is the day Casey General stores decided to begin some kind of a mask mandate. The Facebook Karens tell me all three of the locations in town started the "no mask no service" today, so it must be coming from corporate. Today.. not last Christmas.. not last Fall.. not last spring... Today.

I'm not sure if I'm more entertained by the boycott or the better really really late than never mandate.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah take either. The effect isn’t enough to matter in regards to the immune response imo

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That data is not very strong at all. You can avoid them to be extra safe, but I am far from convinced.

Well bottoms up to 1000mg of acetaminophen and goodnight chiefsplanet. Hope to be back to normal tomorrow.

[jdubya]

My 20 yo son got his first Moderna shot today. Says he feels nothing so far.