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Old 02-09-2021, 12:00 PM  
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Chris Jones in 9 career playoff games: 0 sacks
Only 4 Qb hits. He does have 9 passes defended which seems really high, so that's good. And yes, he did have a very important pass defended in last years SB, we might not have won the game without it. But at some point he needs to get his fair share of the blame for his inability to be effective as a pass rusher in the playoffs. Not to mention the dumbass personal foul penalties.
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Old 02-09-2021, 12:33 PM   #31
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in fairness, he is being double teamed most every play and made Josh Allen crazy... We need another good edge rusher to take some of the scheme off of Jones...
Maybe put him on the edge and plug the middle with Nnadi & Pennell? At least rotate him inside & outside? The dude is a wrecking ball; OLs have to account for him on every down. His is the most disruptive D-lineman in the league not named Aaron Donald
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Old 02-09-2021, 12:34 PM   #32
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More Unsportsmanlike Penalties than sacks....

Well, he call always fall back to his run-stopping prowess...right?
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Old 02-09-2021, 12:35 PM   #33
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Maybe put him on the edge and plug the middle with Nnadi & Pennell? At least rotate him inside & outside? The dude is a wrecking ball; OLs have to account for him on every down. His is the most disruptive D-lineman in the league not named Aaron Donald
If we don't get an edge starter, I'm in...
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Old 02-09-2021, 12:37 PM   #34
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Chris Jones was dominant in the Chiefs Super Bowl win last year.

Even if that dominance cannot be quantified with sacks, there is no doubt the Chiefs don’t comeback to win without his presence.
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Maybe put him on the edge and plug the middle with Nnadi & Pennell? At least rotate him inside & outside? The dude is a wrecking ball; OLs have to account for him on every down. His is the most disruptive D-lineman in the league not named Aaron Donald
This...I’m interested in.

Put Wharton at Jones DT spot and bring in Saunders for depth.

Jones - Nnadi - Wharton - Clark
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Old 02-09-2021, 12:39 PM   #36
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We can’t start this shit. Chris Jones is part of the solution for 2021 and beyond, not the problem.

We just need to protect our investment by adding an edge rusher. If you’re going to have all of that money tied to 2 guys on the DL, your DL needs to be dominant. It’s not, and that’s not really because of Jones and Clark. We had absolutely nothing outside of those 2 guys in terms of pass rush.

Draft a pass rusher early and you will get the most out of those guys.
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We can’t start this shit. Chris Jones is part of the solution for 2021 and beyond, not the problem.

We just need to protect our investment by adding an edge rusher. If you’re going to have all of that money tied to 2 guys on the DL, your DL needs to be dominant. It’s not, and that’s not really because of Jones and Clark. We had absolutely nothing outside of those 2 guys in terms of pass rush.

Draft a pass rusher early and you will get the most out of those guys.
Right.

Lets not go all ****ing reeruned because we lost the SB...a game the Chiefs limped into.
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Right.

Lets not go all ****ing reeruned because we lost the SB...a game the Chiefs limped into.
It’s what CP does.

They must attack somebody, and that somebody is usually a guy that got paid a lot of money or a high draft pick.
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Chris Jones was dominant in the Chiefs Super Bowl win last year.

Even if that dominance cannot be quantified with sacks, there is no doubt the Chiefs don’t comeback to win without his presence.
Good point. The pass blocks were gold, pure gold.

And even if he got no sacks this year, he was incredibly disruptive. He was consistently killing the Buccaneers' cheap-shotting interior linemen.
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Old 02-09-2021, 01:06 PM   #41
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We can’t start this shit. Chris Jones is part of the solution for 2021 and beyond, not the problem.

We just need to protect our investment by adding an edge rusher. If you’re going to have all of that money tied to 2 guys on the DL, your DL needs to be dominant. It’s not, and that’s not really because of Jones and Clark. We had absolutely nothing outside of those 2 guys in terms of pass rush.

Draft a pass rusher early and you will get the most out of those guys.
They tried recently. Kpassagnon and Speaks didn't pan out. When was the last time they drafted a good edge rusher? Tamba Hali?

You're not likely going to get a Nick Bosa outside the top 10. They're drafting late in the first round. Hard to find someone who can start and immediately be an impact player.
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They tried recently. Kpassagnon and Speaks didn't pan out. When was the last time they drafted a good edge rusher? Tamba Hali?

You're not likely going to get a Nick Bosa outside the top 10. They're drafting late in the first round. Hard to find someone who can start and immediately be an impact player.
Oh ok, so since Kpass and Speaks didn’t work out they should just stop trying?



They literally just drafted one of the day 3 gems in Danna. He might not be a stud, but he’s a good rotational player at the very least and a great pick in the late rounds.

This edge class is deep. They can realistically get a pass rusher like Phillips or Oweh at 31, both of whom have the upside to be the best in this class.

You don’t have to have a top 10 pick to get a good edge rusher.
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tbh I would prefer we land a playmaker at LB. Jones is already a playmaker on our DL and we have three in the secondary: Mathieu, Dirty Dan, and Sneed.

Superior TEs feast on this defense, and RBs break through arm tackles at the LOS. We need someone at the next level to make big plays. Right now all we have are JAGs, which is fine if you mix in a playmaker.
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tbh I would prefer we land a playmaker at LB. Jones is already a playmaker on our DL and we have three in the secondary: Mathieu, Dirty Dan, and Sneed.

Superior TEs feast on this defense, and RBs break through arm tackles at the LOS. We need someone at the next level to make big plays. Right now all we have are JAGs, which is fine if you mix in a playmaker.
His name is Willie Gay.
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He hasn’t gotten as many sacks because he’s been playing responsible team defense and not just abandoning his gaps to make selfish plays that hang teammates out to dry.
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