Chiefs Chris Jones in 9 career playoff games: 0 sacks - Page 7

CasselGotPeedOn · 02-09-2021, 12:00 PM

Only 4 Qb hits. He does have 9 passes defended which seems really high, so that's good. And yes, he did have a very important pass defended in last years SB, we might not have won the game without it. But at some point he needs to get his fair share of the blame for his inability to be effective as a pass rusher in the playoffs. Not to mention the dumbass personal foul penalties.

htismaqe · 02-09-2021, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Our broken and inept oline made them look more stellar than skill level.

Spags didn't adjust. He runs the same thing 97 percent of the time. Rush four straight or blitz straight. We do not stunt, we do not hide coverage. Our rush would get better with those adjustments.

Same thing with beinemy. He didn't adjust to our poor line play and their coverage. If my qb only has seconds and they are double and triple covering my best two threats past 10 yards. I call quick slants and death by a thousand cuts.

I don't keep calling deep or slow developing plays.

This team was ill prepared by the coaches again and this time the players talent didn't overcome.

Started with those ****ing timeouts.

Clark's sack in the 1st quarter came on a stunt. FWIW.

staylor26 · 02-09-2021, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Our broken and inept oline made them look more stellar than skill level.

Spags didn't adjust. He runs the same thing 97 percent of the time. Rush four straight or blitz straight. We do not stunt, we do not hide coverage. Our rush would get better with those adjustments.

Same thing with beinemy. He didn't adjust to our poor line play and their coverage. If my qb only has seconds and they are double and triple covering my best two threats past 10 yards. I call quick slants and death by a thousand cuts.

I don't keep calling deep or slow developing plays.

This team was ill prepared by the coaches again and this time the players talent didn't overcome.

Started with those ****ing timeouts.

Spags didn’t adjust?

What is he supposed to do when his corners aren’t allowed to breathe on Tampa’s WR’s?

What is he supposed to do when the defense comes out and get 2 stops to start the game and the offense does virtually nothing with it?

What is he supposed to do when they get a goal line stand and the offense does nothing with it?

What is he supposed to do when his defense gets a turnover and it’s nullified by a phantom holding call?

What is he supposed to do when his defense holds Tampa to a FG and we get an offsides penalty that leads to a 1st down?

Pants · 02-09-2021, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Spags didn’t adjust?

What is he supposed to do when his corners aren’t allowed to breathe on Tampa’s WR’s?

What is he supposed to do when the defense comes out and get 2 stops to start the game and the offense does virtually nothing with it?

What is he supposed to do when they get a goal line stand and the offense does nothing with it?

What is he supposed to do when his defense gets a turnover and it’s nullified by a phantom holding call?

What is he supposed to do when his defense holds Tampa to a FG and we get an offsides penalty that leads to a 1st down?

I feel like I am in a sea of dumbasses, man. How is this not ****ing obvious? I can't believe you have to spell it out.

Why Not? · 02-09-2021, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He's the best DT in the league not named Aaron Donald.

Every other team in the league would kill to have Chris Jones and here we are...

The same Aaron Donald that prior to running into the Seahawks melted butter O line in this year's playoffs only had .5 career post season sacks? He sucks also.

-Some of CP

Rasputin · 02-09-2021, 08:44 PM

**** the haters he helped us win a Super Bowl last year and helped get us there again this year.

Was the game disappointing absolutely but I still love what we have on defense and I love Chris Jones.

It's hard to defend 9 points from 3 field goals and expect to win with a one sided referee crew.

Megatron96 · 02-10-2021, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Our broken and inept oline made them look more stellar than skill level.

Spags didn't adjust. He runs the same thing 97 percent of the time. Rush four straight or blitz straight. We do not stunt, we do not hide coverage. Our rush would get better with those adjustments.

Same thing with beinemy. He didn't adjust to our poor line play and their coverage. If my qb only has seconds and they are double and triple covering my best two threats past 10 yards. I call quick slants and death by a thousand cuts.

I don't keep calling deep or slow developing plays.

This team was ill prepared by the coaches again and this time the players talent didn't overcome.

Started with those ****ing timeouts.

You have no idea what you're talking about. If you're going to run your mouth with that level of incompetence, you really should just keep quiet.

ChiefsFanatic · 02-10-2021, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Meh. Wilson and Hitchens both had solid seasons. We need to find an edge rusher.

Our linebacking corp needs a complete revamp. Hitchens is slow and getting old. Wilson has a series or two here and there that make him look good, but he has had more series where he is just a complete non-factor, and Niemann is obviously just trash.

Willie Gay Jr could barely get on the field this year, but he possess the athleticism and speed we desperately need.

I think if you look at the defensive backfield, the linebackers, and the defensive line, it's clear that the linebackers is the position group that isn't on par with the other two.

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ChiefsFanatic · 02-10-2021, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

If we don’t get one in the first 2 rounds, I’m all for it.

I don't know exactly why Gay couldn't get more snaps this year (I mean, we can all guess) but hopefully Spags and the position coaches can coach him up next year, and he can become an every down LB.

I would be curious to hear your thoughts on why we never tried to use his speed on the edge more, especially situationally. I just always wondered why, with his speed, if he couldn't get regular defensive snaps, why didn't we at least try to take advantage of his speed off the edge more.

Is it just because he doesn't have the talent to be an edge rusher, even in spots, or something else? Or am I just crazy to think we should have found more ways to take advantage of his speed?

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htismaqe · 02-10-2021, 08:09 AM

Gay didn't get on the field because he was extremely raw. He didn't play a lot of football in college.

They didn't want to expose him to too much too fast and that's fine.

He'll be on the field more next year.

They'll be fine at LB even if they do nothing but I'm sure we'll see some movement in free agency. I wouldn't count on a LB in the draft given the needs and the depth at DE, OL, and WR.

HC_Chief · 02-10-2021, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Gay didn't get on the field because he was extremely raw. He didn't play a lot of football in college.

They didn't want to expose him to too much too fast and that's fine.

He'll be on the field more next year.

They'll be fine at LB even if they do nothing but I'm sure we'll see some movement in free agency. I wouldn't count on a LB in the draft given the needs and the depth at DE, OL, and WR.

Considering how poor our LB corps has been, it sure would be nice to see a significant change. We know Britt is likely done. Perhaps we should replace Matt House as well? It's obvious we either have a serious personnel issue, meaning a bunch of guys who simply cannot execute, or we have a technique, i.e. coaching gap. Bottom line is our LB corps do not have playmakers. Our DL and secondary do.

staylor26 · 02-10-2021, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Considering how poor our LB corps has been, it sure would be nice to see a significant change. We know Britt is likely done. Perhaps we should replace Matt House as well? It's obvious we either have a serious personnel issue, meaning a bunch of guys who simply cannot execute, or we have a technique, i.e. coaching gap. Bottom line is our LB corps do not have playmakers. Our DL and secondary do.

Replace House? **** no.

We’ve had a personnel issue for years at LB, but Hitchens is coming off his best year as a Chief and Gay is going to be a starter in 2021.

There are much bigger concerns for 2021 than LB and LB coach.

ToxSocks · 02-10-2021, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Clark's sack in the 1st quarter came on a stunt. FWIW.

And they constantly disguise coverages. They're one of the top teams in the league in that regard.

htismaqe · 02-10-2021, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Considering how poor our LB corps has been, it sure would be nice to see a significant change. We know Britt is likely done. Perhaps we should replace Matt House as well? It's obvious we either have a serious personnel issue, meaning a bunch of guys who simply cannot execute, or we have a technique, i.e. coaching gap. Bottom line is our LB corps do not have playmakers. Our DL and secondary do.

Or it could be that you way overvalue LB's. That's the most likely issue.

HC_Chief · 02-10-2021, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Or it could be that you way overvalue LB's. That's the most likely issue.

Or you way undervalue them.

TNTEICHER · 02-10-2021, 01:28 PM

Playing next to Kpass has it draw backs. Put a good DE next to Jones and watch out.

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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8159900	Gay didn't get on the field because he was extremely raw. He didn't play a lot of football in college. They didn't want to expose him to too much too fast and that's fine. He'll be on the field more next year. They'll be fine at LB even if they do nothing but I'm sure we'll see some movement in free agency. I wouldn't count on a LB in the draft given the needs and the depth at DE, OL, and WR.
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