Deshaun Watson being accused of sexual assault?

[staylor26]

Easterby made the call?

[KCUnited]

Whats happening on todays episode of Balloon Knots Landing?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Whats happening on todays episode of Balloon Knots Landing?

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[crispystl]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Like Twisted said, when it was 1 or 2, it could have impacted Watson's leverage.

But we're now over 20. This doesn't benefit anybody, let alone Easterby.

Watson may not be playing football AT ALL come September. Houston can't trade him and if he ends up on the exempt list, they can't play him either.

This is a disaster for everybody involved.

Thank God for Patrick Mahomes!

[FloridaMan88]

ESPN put together a comprehensive time-line of all the accusations against Watson (to-date):

Link: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...deshaun-watson

March 30, 2020, at the plaintiff's home in Texas. The plaintiff has run a massage therapy business since 2018 and is a licensed therapist. He contacted her via direct message on Instagram and insisted no one else be present during his massage. The woman alleges that Watson exposed his penis and touched her hand with his penis. She says she ended the massage abruptly and Watson told her: "I know you have a career and a reputation, and I know you would hate for someone to mess with yours, just like I don't want anyone messing with mine." She says he texted later to apologize but she did not respond.

April 19, 2020, at a Houston spa. The plaintiff, a licensed esthetician who owns her skin care business, says she was contacted by Watson via Instagram. During a massage appointment, Watson directed the woman to work on the crevices in his groin area, the lawsuit states. She says when he rolled over onto his back, he had an erection and repeatedly touched her hand with his penis. He ejaculated, leaving the woman "confused and mortified," the lawsuit states.

June 2, 2020, at a spa in Houston. The plaintiff has been in the massage business about 11 years and is a licensed therapist who routinely works with pro athletes. She says Watson contacted her via Instagram and later by phone, telling her he makes "a lot of massage therapists uncomfortable and it's really hard for me to find someone who will meet my needs." During the appointment, the woman says, Watson continually tried to remove towels and exposed his penis multiple times and moved "in such a way to make his penis touch Plaintiff." The lawsuit says Watson tried to schedule future appointments but was ignored or declined.

June 2020 and Aug. 17, 2020, at a hotel and later a spa in Houston. The plaintiff, who offers bodywork and stretch therapy classes, markets her business through Instagram. She said she initially did not know who Watson was when he contacted her through the manager at a spa where she worked. She met him at a hotel where he was staying, the lawsuit says. She says Watson groped her buttocks and vagina, and she slapped him. She says he later touched her hand with his penis. On Aug. 17, she says, Watson reached out on Instagram, and she didn't realize the connection to her earlier client until he arrived. The lawsuit says Watson apologized for his earlier behavior but during the appointment exposed himself, forced the woman's mouth onto his penis and masturbated in front of her.

July 2020 at the plaintiff's house in Houston. The plaintiff offered Watson a teeth whitening and sauna detox when he originally reached out via Instagram for a massage. Later, by telephone, Watson asked about Swedish massage, and she said she would try to learn it before his appointment, according to the lawsuit. During the appointment, the woman says, Watson lay naked on his stomach and told her to massage the area underneath his genitals and anus before flipping onto his back. The lawsuit states that as the plaintiff massaged his groin, Watson ejaculated on her face and body. She says he then took her hand and had it touch his penis. The woman called a friend later that day to say what had happened because, she says, she was in shock.

July 15, 2020 at a home in Beverly Hills, Calif. The plaintiff, a licensed massage therapist, says Watson contacted her on Instagram. He later gave her an address to a house in Beverly Hills where she was to meet him, the lawsuit says. When she arrived, she says, she was led to a room where Watson locked the door. The plaintiff says she took out mace, and Watson laughed but didn't say anything. When the massage started, the lawsuit states, Watson asked her to massage his glutes and pointed to his anus, and the plaintiff refused. When Watson flipped over, he had an erection covered by a towel, which he removed, the plaintiff says. She says Watson grabbed her hands and moved them toward his genitals and forced her hands onto his penis. Afterward, she says, he told her, "I will not have you sign a NDA but don't ever talk about this."

Aug. 2, 2020, at a hotel in Houston. The plaintiff offers various wellness services in homes, hotels and offices. Watson allegedly contacted her by Instagram to set up an appointment. The woman says that, during the session, Watson repeatedly asked if he could be naked and demanded she focus on the buttocks. The lawsuit alleges that Watson told the plaintiff he wanted her to touch his anus with her fingers. After the session, according to the lawsuit, Watson was naked in the room when the plaintiff returned from washing her hands and he allegedly asked if she did more than just professional work "for more money." The woman says she immediately declined and told him to leave. Due to the incident, she left the profession, the lawsuit states.

Aug. 28, 2020, at the Houstonian Hotel. The plaintiff has owned a massage therapy business in Atlanta since 2019. She says Watson contacted her via Instagram and flew her to Houston for his appointment. The woman says Watson tried to get her to touch his genitals and exposed himself. She said she ended the massage and Watson grabbed her hand and arm and said, 'It is OK. It is OK.' She said she pulled away. When Watson went to shower, she says, she left for the airport and did not respond to later requests from Watson.

Several encounters between Sept. 9, 2020, and October 2020 at a spa in Houston. The plaintiff, a licensed esthetician of nine years, offers back treatments and body scrubs. In one session, the lawsuit says, Watson asked the woman "what she would do about his erection." She told him his behavior was inappropriate, the lawsuit says. In an October session, she says, Watson tried to put his penis in the plaintiff's hand so she would touch it and moved his body so his penis would touch her hand. She says he insisted she focus on his groin, complained she was wearing too many clothes and tried to kiss her. The woman says she cut the second session short and Watson left.

Sept. 24, 2020, at a rented room in a Houston salon. The plaintiff, who owns her own fitness company and offers body conditioning and wellness therapy, says Watson contacted her on Instagram. She said Watson asked if it was OK if he got naked and "if he got aroused." Later, she says, he moved his body to have his penis touch her hand. She said she moved away and Watson then ejaculated. The lawsuit says the woman "felt violated and disgusted" and immediately stopped the session.

Two sessions -- Oct. 19 and around Nov. 2, 2020 -- at the plaintiff's office in Houston. The woman owns a bodywork and stretch therapy company and had been open around six months. She said Watson contacted her on Instagram. In the first session, she says, Watson wanted her to work on his inner thighs. She said she doesn't "do that kind of work," but she did after he insisted, according to the lawsuit. During the second session, Watson kissed the plaintiff when he arrived, she says. She was shocked and left the office quickly to compose herself, and when she returned he exposed himself, the lawsuit says. Later, she says, Watson asked her to work on his buttocks and penis area but she declined. The lawsuit says he moved in a way to have his penis touch her hand and offered to pay extra if she worked on his buttocks and penis. She says when she declined, Watson got upset and left.

Dec. 28, 2020, at a Houston office building. The woman, a licensed massage therapist since 2018, says Watson contacted her through Instagram. During the session, she says, Watson instructed her to slide her hands across his genitals. The woman says she started shaking and felt intimidated and threatened. The lawsuit says that he forced the woman to have oral sex and that she blacked out for a few minutes from fear. She says Watson then got dressed and left.

Jan. 21, 2021, in Houston. The plaintiff, a licensed massage therapist who owns her own business in Houston, says Watson contacted her on Instagram. As the massage started, she says, Watson asked if he could remove draping because he gets hot. The woman says she told Watson that he would have to remain partially covered and that the massage was strictly professional. The lawsuit says he exposed his erect penis and caused it to touch her hand.

March 5, 2021, at a massage therapy business in Sandy Springs, Georgia. The plaintiff is a licensed massage therapist who owns her own business. She says Watson contacted her on Instagram about a $55 discount massage she was offering. During the massage, she says, Watson made her uncomfortable and directed her to his groin area. She refused, and Watson exposed himself and put his penis on her hand, the lawsuit says. She says she was shocked and moved away, and Watson dressed and left.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Like Twisted said, when it was 1 or 2, it could have impacted Watson's leverage.

But we're now over 20. This doesn't benefit anybody, let alone Easterby.

Watson may not be playing football AT ALL come September. Houston can't trade him and if he ends up on the exempt list, they can't play him either.

This is a disaster for everybody involved.

Houston would have despised Easterby even if he traded Watson for 4 first rounders. If he kept him Watson would become a huge distraction and an attack on his culture agenda. He was screwed either way.

Easterby is littlefinger. He cares more about power. And he went from being on the hottest of seats to now having lots of air cover. He has an out for getting rid of Watson without pissing fans off... Even for notbing, he has a scapegoat for losing, and he has more ammo to push his right 53 culture horseshit. McNair gets hurt by this. I'd say Easterby comes out looking pretty good.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Houston would have despised Easterby even if he traded Watson for 4 first rounders. If he kept him Watson would become a huge distraction and an attack on his culture agenda. He was screwed either way.

Easterby is littlefinger. He cares more about power. And he went from being on the hottest of seats to now having lots of air cover. He has an out for getting rid of Watson without pissing fans off... Even for notbing, he has a scapegoat for losing, and he has more ammo to push his right 53 culture horseshit. McNair gets hurt by this. I'd say Easterby comes out looking pretty good.

They're going to be forced to keep Watson and he IS a a huge distraction. Present tense.

This only helps Easterby if the NFL allows them to void Watson's contract. It doesn't help them if he stays on the books but can't play.

[Sassy Squatch]

Yeah, starting to think this Easterby being this power hungry evil mastermind thing may have been a bit overblown. He's still an absolute trash executive and a goof, but littlefinger? Nah.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Yeah, starting to think this Easterby being this power hungry evil mastermind thing may have been a bit overblown. He's still an absolute trash executive and a goof, but littlefinger? Nah.

If this was really about Easterby consolidating power, he would have just traded Watson for a haul of picks.

[TLO]

I've seen "littlefinger" mentioned a couple times in this thread now. Is this some sort of code? The finger he prefers in his ass? What's going on here.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Yeah, starting to think this Easterby being this power hungry evil mastermind thing may have been a bit overblown. He's still an absolute trash executive and a goof, but littlefinger? Nah.

Make no mistake about it, Easterby is a charlatan and a scheister. He's a proponent of the prosperity gospel. His sort are well known amongst believers. To non-believers, the best known names would be guys like Joel Osteen or maybe Paula White.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by TLO

I've seen "littlefinger" mentioned a couple times in this thread now. Is this some sort of code? The finger he prefers in his ass? What's going on here.

Game of Thrones reference.

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Yeah, starting to think this Easterby being this power hungry evil mastermind thing may have been a bit overblown. He's still an absolute trash executive and a goof, but littlefinger? Nah.

All Watson wanted was just a littlefinger and oil.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

It's weird to me that so many in this thread read "in home massage therapist" as code for sex worker. Legit in home massages are very common. I'm not saying there aren't ones that will jerk you off and I don't know how these women presented themselves, but making that assumption of any given masseuse is ridiculous. And even if Watson was a big enough dumbass to make that embarrassing mistake once, doing it multiple times is no mistake.

The point I was trying to make is there is gray area. Because rules are enforced to look the other way. So the client isn't supposed to ask and the masseuse isn't supposed to offer. It's wink wink nudge nudge. Feel like the law needs to either make it legal or enforce it consistently. There are plenty of legit workers but as long as no one is allowed to talk about it, the customer makes assumptions and sometimes is wrong. I personally feel like illegalizing some of these things creates more danger than not.

Watson chose to go this underground route. That's on him. He knew the rules and broke them. But his asking seems a lot more reflective of our weird enforcement of the rules vs Watson being some kind of serial predator. But again, if the answer was no and he pressed, that's a very different story.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

If this was really about Easterby consolidating power, he would have just traded Watson for a haul of picks.

I doubt anyone wanted it to escalate to this level. Do I think they'd have incentive to plant the seed on this not knowing it would blow up? Remember this started as a tiny deal Watson could have paid to go away but instead chose to fight. Its a total conspiracy theory but there's so many dots that just oddly connect.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I doubt anyone wanted it to escalate to this level. Do I think they'd have incentive to plant the seed on this not knowing it would blow up? Remember this started as a tiny deal Watson could have paid to go away but instead chose to fight. Its a total conspiracy theory but there's so many dots that just oddly connect.

Sometimes dots connect because they actually happened.