Chiefs Chiefs trade for CB Mike Hughes - Page 11

Dante84 · 03:06 PM

Trade: #Vikings are trading former first-round CB Mike Hughes to the #Chiefs*, per @AdamSchefter. Secondary help as he enters a contract year.
— NFL Update (@MySportsUpdate) May 13, 2021

Chiefs and Vikings swapped late-round draft picks, with Kansas City also getting back Minnesota’s 2018 first-round pick, per source. https://t.co/EiWiQFgAQS
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) May 13, 2021

The Chiefs are sending their 2022 sixth-round pick to Minnesota for Hughes and their 2022 seventh-round pick, per source. https://t.co/XKJ2JPH9hO
— Field Yates (@FieldYates) May 13, 2021

**RealSNR** · 05-14-2021, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas

Let's be realistic about what you got in return though. You moved up a few spots into the 6th round in exchange for a player. You didn't get a draft pick free and clear, because we got a pick in return. However, even if you did get that 6th round pick free and clear, what has Spielman done with 6th round picks in the last few years?

2017
Bucky Hodges selected with pick #201. Released 9-12-17

2018
Colby Gossett selected with pick #213. Waived 9-1-18
Ade Aruna selected with pick #218. Injured, then waived 8-31-19.

2019
Armon Watts selected with pick #190. He played in 23 games with 1 start and had 42 tackles combined and 2 sacks.
Marcus Epps selected with pick #191. Waived 11-6-19
Oli Udoh selected with pick #193. He played 7 games with 0 starts.

2020
Blake Brandel selected with pick #203. Waived 9-5-20
Josh Metellus selected with pick #205. He played 15 games with 9 tackles.

I only went back to 2017, but it's not like you guys have amazing success with these 6th round picks and the 6th round pick we traded you is likely to be very near the end of the 6th round as opposed to those listed above. What you got in return for trading us a player and a pick is not much at all.

I was about to bring up Stefon Diggs, but he went in the 5th round, not the 6th.

I know 6th round picks aren't supposed to be franchise cornerstones or anything, but that's really not much of a list you brought up. There are a couple nice depth guys the Vikings got on the list you put up, but again, it's all relative for what 6th rounders generally get you.

Going back past 2017, the next most recent noteworthy 6th round selection for the Vikings (infamous to the franchise, though) would be taking Blair Walsh in 2012.

If you want an honest-to-goodness good solid starting player drafted in the 6th round by the Vikings, you have to go back to 1998 with Matt Birk.

mililo4cpa · 05-14-2021, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

This provided us with the opportunity to use our original 2nd rounder to draft the best center in the draft as well. We did quite well this offseason.

Absolutely!

JakeF · 05-14-2021, 10:06 AM

We didn't give up much of anything

the only real risk is a potential injury settlement because of his neck.

Worth it. I hope that doesn't mean Breeland isn't coming back though.

ToxSocks · 05-14-2021, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF

We didn't give up much of anything

the only real risk is a potential injury settlement because of his neck.

Worth it. I hope that doesn't mean Breeland isn't coming back though.

I doubt this guy has anything to do with Breeland.

We're talking about two different areas of the depth chart.

This guy enriches competition on the back end of the roster. He's here to compete with Baker and Keyes.

Breeland is an immediate starter.

mililo4cpa · 05-14-2021, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Seriously, Minnesota fan wants to do this over Mike ****ing Hughes?

We know what we got. And we know what we gave up (nothing).

If he turns out to be broke, and he probably is, we're out NOTHING.

JFC, what a stupid thing to argue about. But I guess that's what happens when you have a mediocre QB making $45M guaranteed.

Rumor is that the Chiefs got fleeced lol.....

**morphius** · 05-14-2021, 10:31 AM

Don't know that we have a lot of luck with consistently broken people coming in and suddenly being luckier health wise. I'm interested how much faith he has in his body at this point, and will he play afraid because of it. Didn't give up much at least.

RedinTexas · 05-14-2021, 10:40 AM

Over the years of being a fan of the Chiefs, I can recall some horrible trades that left us worse off and in some cases, much worse off. Some of those trades set the franchise back severely. There is no way in hell that this trade will ever be seen as having set the franchise back even slightly, though the upside is distinctly possible.

Chris Meck · 05-14-2021, 11:51 AM

How lame is your team when you go register on a perennial SB contender's fanboard to chortle over how you think they got fleeced on a 6th rounder trade?

I mean, really?

**Rain Man** · 05-14-2021, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

First I heard the Vikings are smarter than everyone else.

I'm willing to bet that Veach gets a more productive player with the 7th rounder than the Vikings will get with the 6th rounder. As evidence for my claim, I will merely point at Veach and say, "He's Veach".

**Bowser** · 05-14-2021, 12:16 PM

If this is the move that we can look back on and say "Wow, Veach went full blockhead with that one!", I think I'll eventually be ok with it.

Sofa King · 05-14-2021, 12:54 PM

Vikings dude comes in here to pound his chest, immediately gets Kirk Cousins thrown back at him. It's justice, really.

TEX · 05-14-2021, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVike

May have been a bit harsh, but the fact remains. Mike Zimmer doesn't just give up on cornerbacks. I truthfully wish Mike all the best, but I promise you neither Zimmer, nor Rick Speilman (our GM) are in the business of giving away useful players in the secondary. If you guys can bring him back, more power to you. It's one thing to have spinal fusion surgery when you're Peyton Manning at 38 years old. It's another thing when you're a dimeback at 25.

So you come here and profess how the Vikes fleeced us, then you run over to the Orange Mange and start a thread and talk shit at how we reacted to your chest pounding. Vikings Fans -

TEX · 05-14-2021, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

How lame is your team when you go register on a perennial SB contender's fanboard to chortle over how you think they got fleeced on a 6th rounder trade?

I mean, really?

Dude actually ran to the Mange and started a thread about us.

Completely left out the fact that he came here first bragging how we got fleeced. So he runs off, tail between his legs, to the Mange b/c we are so mean. Now he's the most popular guy there b/c he's dogging us. Can't make this shit up.

RedinTexas · 05-14-2021, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

So you come here and profess how the Vikes fleeced us, then you run over to the Orange Mange and start a thread and talk shit at how we reacted to your chest pounding. Vikings Fans -

OMG that's hysterical. I had to go read it. He's whining about how horribly he was treated. What a wuss. He wasn't even treated that badly here.

ToxSocks · 05-14-2021, 01:56 PM

https://www.orangemane.com/forum/ora...may-i-just-add

Wow, what a bitch.

MikeVike and the rest of those Donk fans can go suck a dick. Link this thread to them, pussy.

What kind of fruit cake runs to a division rival message board to whine about how he was treated?

You are one special ass ****ing moron.

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RedinTexas Veteran Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Texas Casino cash: $-150000	Over the years of being a fan of the Chiefs, I can recall some horrible trades that left us worse off and in some cases, much worse off. Some of those trades set the franchise back severely. There is no way in hell that this trade will ever be seen as having set the franchise back even slightly, though the upside is distinctly possible.
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ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $2003063	https://www.orangemane.com/forum/ora...may-i-just-add Wow, what a bitch. MikeVike and the rest of those Donk fans can go suck a dick. Link this thread to them, pussy. What kind of fruit cake runs to a division rival message board to whine about how he was treated? You are one special ass ****ing moron. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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