Chiefs "The OL needs time to gel." Ok. How long does that take? - Page 4

**RealSNR** · 06-07-2021, 01:33 PM

I'm a busy Chiefs fan on the internet, so I need instant and direct answers, please!

I'm as excited about the new OL as everybody else, but I keep hearing this warning from critics, "Ok, but your new OL will need time to gel." Teicher the Dickless even said we could be looking at 1-3 or 0-4 to start the season all because the OL will not have had time to "gel" yet! Seems scary!

I'm trying to think of massive single-offseason OL rebuilds in the past. The recent Cowboys rebuild in the early 2010s was entirely through the draft and took at least two seasons to construct. I think I remember the Chargers doing a full-on rebuild a bit later and being impressed by it, but in typical Chargers fashion is sort of just slowly collapsed and dudes got injured.

Is there a precedent for this kind of thing where we're virtually guaranteed a Week 1 OL full of starters who have never played next to one another in a game? And when they say, "They need time to gel" does that mean a few weeks? Just a game or two? Not until late in the season? And what's the severity of playing with an un-gelled line?

**morphius** · 06-08-2021, 06:15 AM

Main thing is them staying healthy till the season. I'd expect it to take a couple of games for blitz pickups and such to become more settled.

In58men · 06-08-2021, 07:02 AM

The center position will be key, they’re the anchor of the line. Could take awhile, crowd noise and gameplay is different from training camp.

Dunerdr · 06-08-2021, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men

The center position will be key, they’re the anchor of the line. Could take awhile, crowd noise and gameplay is different from training camp.

Humphrey played at OU, in a regularly packed stadium and in the college playoffs 3 times i believe. I'm not worried with crowd noise, maybe game speed.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 06-08-2021, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Speaking of the o-line, are we all certain that Humphrey is going to be the starting center? Does Austin Blythe even have a chance?

I think Blythe will compete at Center and RG.

RaidersOftheCellar · 06-08-2021, 08:35 AM

Did Teicher seriously predict that they'll start 1-3 or 0-4?

Hoover · 06-08-2021, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Doesn't matter have Mahomes.

Correct answer

dlphg9 · 06-08-2021, 10:10 AM

Teicher is a ****ing douche. Dude is a glorified Arrowhead Pride writer and hes somehow convinced ESPN that he's the best option to give ground breaking commentary on the Chiefs.

It's like he's always trying to be a contraction, but he's so goddamn unoriginal and boring that the only thing he has is old sports cliches.

**PHOG** · 06-08-2021, 10:15 AM

Waste of time to read his drivel.

**RealSNR** · 06-08-2021, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Did Teicher seriously predict that they'll start 1-3 or 0-4?

Oh my bad. He didn’t say that. He says:

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Bold prediction

The Chiefs won't get off to their usual fast start. They have too many strong opponents in the early season. Five of their first seven games are against 2020 playoff teams.

https://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-cit...her-fast-start

JakeF · 06-08-2021, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Speaking of the o-line, are we all certain that Humphrey is going to be the starting center? Does Austin Blythe even have a chance?

I would not be surprised at all if Andy goes with experience at the center position. The center position is where experience means the most along the Oline.

Dante84 · 06-08-2021, 04:41 PM

Honestly? The biggest question I have regarding the OLine isn't whether or not they'll operate well together, but rather....

...and it's a low key question...

but I wonder about, and will be watching to see, how Brown will handle multiple speed edge-rushes over the top all game long. And to pair with that, the inevitable stunts & counters they'll test him with inside while trying to stretch him on his deep kickstep drops.

He's a big boy, and it could be a smart defensive strategy to try and tire him out, since a hardcore passing offense is a new concept for him.

That said, it's a minor question and the dude is a 2x pro-bowl tackle, so I'm not super worried.

**DaneMcCloud** · 06-08-2021, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

He's a big boy, and it could be a smart defensive strategy to try and tire him out, since a hardcore passing offense is a new concept for him.

He played at OU, which has had a high flying passing offense for years.

Brown will be fine. I can't even understand why anyone would even question whether or not he'd be ready to handle the Chiefs offense Day 1.

**RealSNR** · 06-08-2021, 05:30 PM

The league has had bigger LTs than Brown before who played at Pro Bowl/All Pro levels. Size means jack.

Roaf had chicken legs and walked like an 90 year old man who had to really take a piss. He was great against speed, power, both at the same time, and everything in between.

Dante84 · 06-08-2021, 06:41 PM

I hear you on the OU days and being in a predominately passing offense, good call, I overlooked that. That said, Big 12 defenses are pretty sad, outside of the occasional Texas DE. He clearly adjusted well in Baltimore, with his two Pro-Bowl nods for both tackle spots. Again, not super worried about it, but will be something I'll be looking for in the first few games.

And yep, the counter to my earlier question/thought re: his adjustment from Baltimore to KC's offense is that his length will serve him really well. His wingspan is 85.13 inches, and ranks in the 96th percentile.

So even if a speed rusher runs upfield to try and go around him, his long ass arms will allow him to make that defender's loop even wider. Obviously the outlier is Mahomes' comfort and willingness to stay in the pocket, which should be better this year with a stronger/better interior.

big nasty kcnut · 06-08-2021, 06:47 PM

It usually take about a half a season.

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RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1374792	"The OL needs time to gel." Ok. How long does that take? I'm a busy Chiefs fan on the internet, so I need instant and direct answers, please! I'm as excited about the new OL as everybody else, but I keep hearing this warning from critics, "Ok, but your new OL will need time to gel." Teicher the Dickless even said we could be looking at 1-3 or 0-4 to start the season all because the OL will not have had time to "gel" yet! Seems scary! I'm trying to think of massive single-offseason OL rebuilds in the past. The recent Cowboys rebuild in the early 2010s was entirely through the draft and took at least two seasons to construct. I think I remember the Chargers doing a full-on rebuild a bit later and being impressed by it, but in typical Chargers fashion is sort of just slowly collapsed and dudes got injured. Is there a precedent for this kind of thing where we're virtually guaranteed a Week 1 OL full of starters who have never played next to one another in a game? And when they say, "They need time to gel" does that mean a few weeks? Just a game or two? Not until late in the season? And what's the severity of playing with an un-gelled line?
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Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-1908004 VARSITY	Honestly? The biggest question I have regarding the OLine isn't whether or not they'll operate well together, but rather.... ...and it's a low key question... but I wonder about, and will be watching to see, how Brown will handle multiple speed edge-rushes over the top all game long. And to pair with that, the inevitable stunts & counters they'll test him with inside while trying to stretch him on his deep kickstep drops. He's a big boy, and it could be a smart defensive strategy to try and tire him out, since a hardcore passing offense is a new concept for him. That said, it's a minor question and the dude is a 2x pro-bowl tackle, so I'm not super worried. __________________ ..
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Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-1908004 VARSITY	I hear you on the OU days and being in a predominately passing offense, good call, I overlooked that. That said, Big 12 defenses are pretty sad, outside of the occasional Texas DE. He clearly adjusted well in Baltimore, with his two Pro-Bowl nods for both tackle spots. Again, not super worried about it, but will be something I'll be looking for in the first few games. And yep, the counter to my earlier question/thought re: his adjustment from Baltimore to KC's offense is that his length will serve him really well. His wingspan is 85.13 inches, and ranks in the 96th percentile. So even if a speed rusher runs upfield to try and go around him, his long ass arms will allow him to make that defender's loop even wider. Obviously the outlier is Mahomes' comfort and willingness to stay in the pocket, which should be better this year with a stronger/better interior. __________________ ..
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