Permasuck Edwards serving up the Death Penalty for ASU

[tk13]

It was a team effort, Vermeil stuck with Greg Robinson way too long. But even when that was done, Gunther was basically thrown on him which was always weird because he was the guy Vermeil replaced. I don't recall any other team ever doing something like that. And if you remember Gunther stuck around for Herm, then threw him right under the bus on the way out. Said everyone knew he wasn't a zone defense guy. Even with Herm's shortcomings, why stick him with a DC who hated Herm's defensive philosophy?

Really all of that comes back to Carl. Stayed way too long, didn't draft well enough and shoved a DC on his last two coaches who apparently hated the style of defense he was being hired to coach.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by tk13

It was a team effort, Vermeil stuck with Greg Robinson way too long. But even when that was done, Gunther was basically thrown on him which was always weird because he was the guy Vermeil replaced. I don't recall any other team ever doing something like that. And if you remember Gunther stuck around for Herm, then threw him right under the bus on the way out. Said everyone knew he wasn't a zone defense guy. Even with Herm's shortcomings, why stick him with a DC who hated Herm's defensive philosophy?

Really all of that comes back to Carl. Stayed way too long, didn't draft well enough and shoved a DC on his last two coaches who apparently hated the style of defense he was being hired to coach.

Closest I can think of is Dave Campo with the Cowboys.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by tk13

It was a team effort, Vermeil stuck with Greg Robinson way too long. But even when that was done, Gunther was basically thrown on him which was always weird because he was the guy Vermeil replaced. I don't recall any other team ever doing something like that. And if you remember Gunther stuck around for Herm, then threw him right under the bus on the way out. Said everyone knew he wasn't a zone defense guy. Even with Herm's shortcomings, why stick him with a DC who hated Herm's defensive philosophy?

Really all of that comes back to Carl. Stayed way too long, didn't draft well enough and shoved a DC on his last two coaches who apparently hated the style of defense he was being hired to coach.

Let's not forget a despicable draft history from his buddy Lynn stiles. Then instead of blowing the team up trying to bandaid the team with Damon Huard and Damion McIntosh.

A halfway competent DC gets us a playoff win under vermeil. Even a below average draft track record during the vermeil years would have done it. Instead we ended up with a geriatric roster we kept putting on a credit card. By the end of Carl's run he was running a front office of cigar buddies.