***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

“One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.” --Dr. Brytney Cobia, Birmingham, AL. https://t.co/bjU1WA4vKN

— Dodes (@racheld) July 21, 2021

great pic for the article...

Horrible propaganda.

It's disheartening to watch people push the vaccine under the pretense of the well being of others, only to watch them flip and jump at the chance to "blame" them with no compassion.

[O.city]

Keep making vaccines available, but at some point you have to realize that we just are where we are.

Let people make their own decisions and go forward doing the best you can.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by stevieray

great pic for the article...

Horrible propaganda.

It's disheartening to watch people push the vaccine under the pretense of the well being of others, only to watch them flip and jump at the chance to "blame" them with no compassion.

Probably not the best pic, but the article included a decent amount of compassion.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

“One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.” --Dr. Brytney Cobia, Birmingham, AL. https://t.co/bjU1WA4vKN

— Dodes (@racheld) July 21, 2021

I can't imagine working the floor as an inpatient provider/nurse right now. The amount of frustration and heartbreak would be too much. It was too much for me working in a long-term care facility.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

This one really stinks. F Covid.



https://cbs2iowa.com/news/nation-wor...0sFmHVaaxbNWYg



Georgia deputy loses 5-year-old son to COVID-19



"I have lost my best friend."



A Whitfield County, Georgia deputy and his wife are mourning the loss of their 5-year-old boy to COVID-19.



Wyatt Gary Gibson died on Friday, July 16, after a short battle with the virus, family members told our Atlanta affiliate station WSB-TV.



Wyatt was the son of Whitfield County Sheriff's Lt. Wes Gibson and Alexis Gibson. He was the older brother to a 9-month-old sister.



"My little buddy. My best friend. My helper," wrote Wes Gibson in a Facebook post Sunday, "In a way I know that you're still here, but I miss you so damn much! I wish this was one adventure that you did not start... I have lost my best friend."



"There are no words that can be spoken to ease his pain and the pain of his family. Lt. Gibson is a dedicated public servant of Whitfield County that truly cares about our community. He is one of the best of us at the Sheriff’s Office," wrote Juan Martinez on Facebook.



Family members told WSB-TV that the whole family got sick, but only Wyatt ended up having complications, including a stroke and COVID pneumonia.



Wyatt passed away at Erlanger Hospital in Chattanooga on Friday, according to his obituary.



Community members are coming around the Gibson family as they grieve.



A GoFundMe campaign has been started for the Gibsons to help pay for medical bills and funeral costs. A Meal Train for the family has also been started.



"May the care and love of those around them provide comfort and peace to get them through this time of heartache," wrote Tunnel Hill Police Department in a statement on Facebook.

Really sad. Everyone needs to get vaccinated
My uncle died in this similar fashion in November. It still hurts bad.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by O.city

Keep making vaccines available, but at some point you have to realize that we just are where we are.

Let people make their own decisions and go forward doing the best you can.

This is what upsets me is because of those decisions they could get my loved one sick or child that can't get vaccinated. This is a national emergency that half the ****ing population dgaf about until it's too late

[TLO]

Don't we already have vaccines that are mandated for kids to attend school, etc? I think at least some states have those mandates in place.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

This is what upsets me is because of those decisions they could get my loved one sick or child that can't get vaccinated. This is a national emergency that half the ****ing population dgaf about until it's too late

Yeah, it's not ideal.

But doing the best you can and moving forward is all that one can do. Covid rocked my wife and I's family's pretty hard, but life continues to march on.

[MahomesMagic]

This Dr. Cobia stuff looks like a newer copy and paste version of the Covid Party stories the media was pushing last summer.


I begged them not to put the tube in me...says dying man in his 20's! Then we find out the story was fake and ABC News ran it anyway.


I am in marketing...it looks templated.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, it's not ideal.



But doing the best you can and moving forward is all that one can do. Covid rocked my wife and I's family's pretty hard, but life continues to march on.

Yeah for sure. Hope your wife gets better and stays that way. Can't let it get me too upset based on what I've seen in person and just hope the vaccinations increase soon.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Yeah for sure. Hope your wife gets better and stays that way. Can't let it get me too upset based on what I've seen in person and just hope the vaccinations increase soon.

She's fine. We had a hard time with it last year, ended up losing 5 family members to this thing and have a few others that were hospitalized but thankfully recovered.

It's tough, but life is tough sometimes.

[TLO]

I say we make vaccines mandatory. If you don't comply, you will be forced to look at Hope Solo's nudes 4 hours every day until Covid is gone.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

This Dr. Cobia stuff looks like a newer copy and paste version of the Covid Party stories the media was pushing last summer.


I begged them not to put the tube in me...says dying man in his 20's! Then we find out the story was fake and ABC News ran it anyway.


I am in marketing...it looks templated.

I hate stories like this. There's probably some version of this happening out there, but the story itself does no good.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TLO

I hate stories like this. There's probably some version of this happening out there, but the story itself does no good.

“A few days later when I call time of death,” continued Cobia on Facebook, “I hug their family members and I tell them the best way to honor their loved one is to go get vaccinated and encourage everyone they know to do the same.”


“They cry. And they tell me they didn’t know. They thought it was a hoax. They thought it was political. They thought because they had a certain blood type or a certain skin color they wouldn’t get as sick. They thought it was ‘just the flu’. But they were wrong. And they wish they could go back. But they can’t. So they thank me and they go get the vaccine. And I go back to my office, write their death note, and say a small prayer that this loss will save more lives.”


I have no idea who this woman is. Maybe this is all true. The problem is this exact template was used last Summer but then it was everything else +Covid Parties.

They just removed the Covid Parties (maybe they thought that was too over the top) but kept the rest of it.

The other issue, isn't putting everyone on a ventilator kind of outdated medical advice? They did that early on because China recommended it but we soon learned that was probably killing them.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

“A few days later when I call time of death,” continued Cobia on Facebook, “I hug their family members and I tell them the best way to honor their loved one is to go get vaccinated and encourage everyone they know to do the same.”


“They cry. And they tell me they didn’t know. They thought it was a hoax. They thought it was political. They thought because they had a certain blood type or a certain skin color they wouldn’t get as sick. They thought it was ‘just the flu’. But they were wrong. And they wish they could go back. But they can’t. So they thank me and they go get the vaccine. And I go back to my office, write their death note, and say a small prayer that this loss will save more lives.”


I have no idea who this woman is. Maybe this is all true. The problem is this exact template was used last Summer but then it was everything else +Covid Parties.

They just removed the Covid Parties (maybe they thought that was too over the top) but kept the rest of it.

The other issue, isn't putting everyone on a ventilator kind of outdated medical advice? They did that early on because China recommended it but we soon learned that was probably killing them.

Ventilation is still needed and used in these cases depending on saturation and such.