***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

So my crackpot theory here is

Delta hits fast and hard and causes a lot of infection in non immune and some in vaccinated. The vaccinated or natural immune who get infected are likely ends to the chain so the spark doesn’t take off from there as the antibodies kick in and they aren’t infectious very long in the few who get sick.

It burns thru non immune fast and quick, leaving a wake of bad shit

[O.city]

If you look at the big outbreak in mass that the cdc used, it broke and now has gone down to nothing. Highly vaccinated area.

Here in sw mo it broke and we’re low vaxed so it’s just burning thru.

It’s also looking like when delta hits you have a higher percentage of breakthrough infections then that trends down.

[O.city]

https://twitter.com/astoraaron/statu...040809478?s=21

[KCUnited]

Where we at on Israel today?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Where we at on Israel today?

2 weeks behind Iraq.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

So my crackpot theory here is

Delta hits fast and hard and causes a lot of infection in non immune and some in vaccinated. The vaccinated or natural immune who get infected are likely ends to the chain so the spark doesn’t take off from there as the antibodies kick in and they aren’t infectious very long in the few who get sick.

It burns thru non immune fast and quick, leaving a wake of bad shit

Makes a lot of sense. It spread like wildfire through our population up here, but it seems to be burning out. I'm optimistic.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://twitter.com/astoraaron/statu...040809478?s=21

This is the first study of "virological kinetics," or the decline of of viral load, in breakthrough cases. So it is really important for assessing how transmissible breakthroughs are. And as suspected, it shows a real but brief contagiousness window for breakthroughs.

— Aaron Astor (@AstorAaron) July 31, 2021

I'm going to start embedding the tweets you post for you, because they're always really good and people should read them.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by O.city

If you look at the big outbreak in mass that the cdc used, it broke and now has gone down to nothing. Highly vaccinated area.

Also Bear Week!

[suzzer99]

The @NFL is making players wear colored wrist bands now based on vaccination status. Funny, I thought we all agreed on the evils of segregation back in the 60s. Here we are again- only this time it’s based on personal health choices instead of skin color.

— Anthony Sherman (@Shermanator_42) July 31, 2021

How about no wristbands, but we tack on an extra 5 yards to any penalty made by an unvaxxed player?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by O.city

If you look at the big outbreak in mass that the cdc used, it broke and now has gone down to nothing. Highly vaccinated area.

Here in sw mo it broke and we’re low vaxed so it’s just burning thru.

It’s also looking like when delta hits you have a higher percentage of breakthrough infections then that trends down.

Why in the world does SWMO have such a low rate? I couldn't believe it when I saw it.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Also Bear Week!

via GIPHY

[suzzer99]

An under-appreciated form of media bias is the drive for novelty. "COVID Vaccines Prevent Severe Illness and Reduce Transmission" is the exact same story we've heard for months. But that's boring, so we get a wave of stories highlighting breakthrough infections. https://t.co/88kBISkxgI

— Michael Hobbes (@RottenInDenmark) July 31, 2021

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Also Bear Week!

I prefer Bare week. It's the best time to visit college campuses.

[Kiimo]

The ratio of English hospital beds occupied with Covid-19 patients to Covid-19 cases two weeks ago is at its lowest level ever again, just 0.12. Literally a tenth of its peak during the Winter outbreaks. pic.twitter.com/Q8SsEijGtt

— Mike Bird (@Birdyword) July 30, 2021

And charting hospitalisations (& MV beds) against infections since the start of the pandemic nicely shows that number has stopped following the number of cases. pic.twitter.com/oHy24b91zJ

— Chris Fletcher (@fletch360) July 30, 2021

And the same with the death rate. pic.twitter.com/iOUR1Ue41S

— Chris Fletcher (@fletch360) July 30, 2021

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

The @NFL is making players wear colored wrist bands now based on vaccination status. Funny, I thought we all agreed on the evils of segregation back in the 60s. Here we are again- only this time it’s based on personal health choices instead of skin color.

— Anthony Sherman (@Shermanator_42) July 31, 2021

How about no wristbands, but we tack on an extra 5 yards to any penalty made by an unvaxxed player?

Damn. Sucks seeing the brain damage set in so quick on some of these young veterans. Thanks for at least sacrificing those brain cells for a Super Bowl Sherman!