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Old 07-24-2021, 11:33 AM  
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Posting this as a repository for random training camp content. Glad to see Andy moving around today without the cane.
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Old 08-11-2021, 02:06 PM   #2836
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20-23 range?

This defense was 11th last year and they finally have speed and athleticism at LB. Not to mention the addition of Jarran Reed, and Chris Jones looking like a DPOY candidate.
Haha yep, 20th or even lower?

Couldn’t believe I read that… some severe underestimating going on there
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Old 08-11-2021, 02:10 PM   #2837
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If we had two DE's that were very real threats to get double digit sacks, and one DT with 6 sacks and one space eater, nobody would be saying our D-line was in trouble.

Yet we have Jones and Reed, both of whom are legit threats to hit 10 each, and a DE that had 6 last year. And we're in huge trouble.
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Old 08-11-2021, 02:14 PM   #2838
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Old 08-11-2021, 02:20 PM   #2839
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Reed isn't getting 10 sacks.
why not?

he had 10.5 in 2018.

He's done it before.
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Old 08-11-2021, 02:21 PM   #2840
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Read a little thing about Brown from Joe Thomas and his rankings of tackles. Joe has him as the #7 overall tackle in the league.

But he brought up just his massive size and how basically the way to beat him is just outrun him around the outside. Which makes me think of all those 1 on 1s in camp where everyone was up in arms about. He likely ran the guy out the back of the pocket. So if Mahomes doesn't do that "I'm getting killed up the middle so I'm gonna drift out the back of the pocket" thing, it shouldn't matter.
So if the only knock on Brown is that he is routinely running guys around the back of the pocket, that ain't all bad and sure beats what we saw in the SB.

Mahomes can certainly move around and step up in the pocket. But it's a little worrisome if there are routinely defenders coming around back from the blind side. And even if they've looked good so far, it looks like KC will be counting on a rookie center and guard to keep the pocket from getting pushed in.

A part of me also took perverse pleasure in seeing Mahomes throw off his back foot while back pedaling 8 yards deep for a perfect strike down field. Ah, the good/bad old days of yore.
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Old 08-11-2021, 02:26 PM   #2841
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why not?

he had 10.5 in 2018.

He's done it before.
He's not done it since, I don't think his trajectory is upwards. Think I'm far less excited by him than most though so fair enough. He's been v good before with worse coaching so hopefully he'll get back to that level. Honestly most excited by seeing Wharton and Saunders develop and what Danna can do.
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why not?

he had 10.5 in 2018.

He's done it before.
He also just had 6.5 last year.

It’s entirely possible that he falls somewhere in between, and I wouldn’t be shocked to see a couple guys like Danna and Charlton combine for 5-6 at all.
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why not?

he had 10.5 in 2018.

He's done it before.
How many dudes on our D-line are going to have career years?

I'll say this, if Jones and Reed both do, you can hand us that Lombardi.
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He also just had 6.5 last year.

It’s entirely possible that he falls somewhere in between, and I wouldn’t be shocked to see a couple guys like Danna and Charlton combine for 5-6 at all.
Totally.

Notice I said 'threat' to hit double digit sacks.

I think having done it before qualifies. I'd bet 8 or so. And I agree that Danna and Charlton should combine for 5-6. I think Wharton should pick up a few too. And we know they like Danna and Ward as well.

I think we're going to be improved in the pass rush.
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Charlton is a solid performer if he stays on the field...
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How many dudes on our D-line are going to have career years?

I'll say this, if Jones and Reed both do, you can hand us that Lombardi.
I don't think we need that to get handed the Lombardi.

But I think having added a real threat at DT to what we already had is going to create more opportunities for all. I mean, it's a 25% upgrade.
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Charlton is a solid performer if he stays on the field...
I get the concerns about his health, and I share them, but his pressure rate was very good last year.

As long as he’s healthy, he’s a damn good rotational piece, as is Danna.

I think the group is better than people give it credit for.
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Reed played a lot of last season as the only threat on that DL. They eventually added Dunlap, but I think it’s safe to say that he will benefit from playing with Jones and Clark.
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Reed played a lot of last season as the only threat on that DL. They eventually added Dunlap, but I think it’s safe to say that he will benefit from playing with Jones and Clark.
Reed is in a contract year and will give us his (A) game. That is a plus for the Chiefs.
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He also just had 6.5 last year.

It’s entirely possible that he falls somewhere in between, and I wouldn’t be shocked to see a couple guys like Danna and Charlton combine for 5-6 at all.
I would think Reed's sacks would come more from opportunity than design, if you get my meaning.
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