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**wazu** · 07-24-2021, 11:33 AM

Posting this as a repository for random training camp content. Glad to see Andy moving around today without the cane.

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**petegz28** · 08-11-2021, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Reed played a lot of last season as the only threat on that DL. They eventually added Dunlap, but I think it’s safe to say that he will benefit from playing with Jones and Clark.

And Nadi. We got some run stuffers now. If Jones can play the run at the DE position our interior just got magnitudes better. Whatever the reason, be it taking himself out of position of just getting knocked off the ball, Jones was a bit of a liability inside against the run.

**petegz28** · 08-11-2021, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I get the concerns about his health, and I share them, but his pressure rate was very good last year.

As long as he’s healthy, he’s a damn good rotational piece, as is Danna.

I think the group is better than people give it credit for.

The defense should be very good and very deep provided 2 things, Clark gets more pressure on the QB and Jones can set the edge at DE against the run.

The 2 biggest ? on our DL are ironically our alleged 2 best players on the DL.

RustShack · 08-11-2021, 06:35 PM

Clarks job should be easier with with both Reed and Jones on the line. You can’t double team everyone. That’s not counting Taco who could be one of our better pass rushers if he can stay healthy. And obviously our DT’s who need double teamed from size alone.

prhom · 08-11-2021, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Totally.

Notice I said 'threat' to hit double digit sacks.

I think having done it before qualifies. I'd bet 8 or so. And I agree that Danna and Charlton should combine for 5-6. I think Wharton should pick up a few too. And we know they like Danna and Ward as well.

I think we're going to be improved in the pass rush.

I’m kind of okay with more of a pressuring defense than a sacking one too. We have the secondary guys who can take advantage of ill-advised throws made under pressure. I’d rather that than the old get a sack on first or second down and then let them convert on third and 15 defense.

**petegz28** · 08-11-2021, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by prhom

I’m kind of okay with more of a pressuring defense than a sacking one too. We have the secondary guys who can take advantage of ill-advised throws made under pressure. I’d rather that than the old get a sack on first or second down and then let them convert on third and 15 defense.

There is pressuring and pressuring with the down 4. We need the down 4 to consistently get pressure and not have to send Sneed off the corner just to get a sack.

RustShack · 08-11-2021, 07:16 PM

Going back to the guy comparing the OL to one of the greatest OL’s of all time, obviously that’s tough to match to make, but on paper it’s probably the closest we’ve come since. LT and LG are proven, but never in this system. C, RG, and RT have never played an NFL snap.

The potential to be great is there though, how quickly they reach it, if they ever do is another question.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 08-11-2021, 07:23 PM

Stating the obvious here but with Long and LDT hurt it's smooth sailing for Trey Smith to start week 1.

RustShack · 08-11-2021, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Stating the obvious here but with Long and LDT hurt it's smooth sailing for Trey Smith to start week 1.

And Niang. He might have been the original swing tackle, but hopefully there’s no reason for him to swing to LT.

**wazu** · 08-11-2021, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Stating the obvious here but with Long and LDT hurt it's smooth sailing for Trey Smith to start week 1.

I cannot wait to watch Trey Smith play.

tredadda · 08-11-2021, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

I cannot wait to watch Trey Smith play.

Agreed. I really think he will be the stud we all think he will. He's an elite guard who would have gone in the 2nd round (because guards don't go in the first very often) due to health concerns. If he doesn't have those issues he will dominate and easily outplay his draft position.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 08-11-2021, 07:45 PM

Giving away those day three picks for "flier" players is no longer a no-brainer. Brett Veach turning coal into diamonds! It's truly remarkable. Our front office is the envy of the league.

BlackOp · 08-11-2021, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Giving away those day three picks for "flier" players is no longer a no-brainer. Brett Veach turning coal into diamonds! It's truly remarkable. Our front office is the envy of the league.

I'm still confused why a team wouldn't use a late 5th on Trey Smith...even with his health condition.

It seems like the payoff would have been worth the risk...which really wasn't much.

Then the Chiefs get praised for taking him...like he's a steal and no other team knew about him.

It was fortuitous he was still there...but what about all teams in the 6th that passed on him? That was a weird situation...

-King- · 08-11-2021, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

I'm still confused why a team wouldn't use a late 5th on Trey Smith...even with his health condition.

It seems like the payoff would have been worth the risk...which really wasn't much.

Then the Chiefs get praised for taking him...like he's a steal and no other team knew about him.

It was fortuitous he was still there...but what about all teams in the 6th that passed on him? That was a weird situation...

NFL saw what happened in the Superbowl and rigged the draft for us.

BlackOp · 08-11-2021, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

NFL saw what happened in the Superbowl and rigged the draft for us.

It's the least they could do...

What do you think the cap increase will be...now that the NFL is getting a cut of gambling revenue?

tredadda · 08-11-2021, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

I'm still confused why a team wouldn't use a late 5th on Trey Smith...even with his health condition.

It seems like the payoff would have been worth the risk...which really wasn't much.

Then the Chiefs get praised for taking him...like he's a steal and no other team knew about him.

It was fortuitous he was still there...but what about all teams in the 6th that passed on him? That was a weird situation...

Because they put too much value on a pick. To them a fifth round pick holds more value than what they could have gotten with it, which in this case is Smith.

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RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3116954	Clarks job should be easier with with both Reed and Jones on the line. You can’t double team everyone. That’s not counting Taco who could be one of our better pass rushers if he can stay healthy. And obviously our DT’s who need double teamed from size alone. __________________
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RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3116954	Going back to the guy comparing the OL to one of the greatest OL’s of all time, obviously that’s tough to match to make, but on paper it’s probably the closest we’ve come since. LT and LG are proven, but never in this system. C, RG, and RT have never played an NFL snap. The potential to be great is there though, how quickly they reach it, if they ever do is another question. __________________
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ThyKingdomCome15 MVP Join Date: Jun 2019 Casino cash: $-499600	Stating the obvious here but with Long and LDT hurt it's smooth sailing for Trey Smith to start week 1.
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08-11-2021, 07:45 PM	#2861
ThyKingdomCome15 MVP Join Date: Jun 2019 Casino cash: $-499600	Giving away those day three picks for "flier" players is no longer a no-brainer. Brett Veach turning coal into diamonds! It's truly remarkable. Our front office is the envy of the league.
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