***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

So sorry to hear that Carlota and I am glad you are getting better. I have read some anecdotal stories from people with long haul symptoms getting back to normal after they got the vaccine. Maybe it clears everything out.

I have heard the same on people getting better after the vaccine regarding long haul symptoms, anecdotally of course but I assume they will/are studying it.

[MIAdragon]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I have heard the same on people getting better after the vaccine regarding long haul symptoms, anecdotally of course but I assume they will/are studying it.

My sister got worse after the vaccine.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

My sister got worse after the vaccine.

That sucks

[TLO]

Pfizer seeking FDA authorization for a booster shot (3rd dose) Think I'll wait and see more data before I hop in line for this one.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TLO

Pfizer seeking FDA authorization for a booster shot (3rd dose) Think I'll wait and see more data before I hop in line for this one.

That's one where the difference between FDA authorization and CDC recommendation is important. It makes sense for it to be authorized (which basically says, we think it's safe). The question is just whether it's necessary.

[WhawhaWhat]

They’ll somehow blow this lead too https://t.co/TYPLwGdduP

— NFL Memes (@NFL_Memes) August 17, 2021

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

They’ll somehow blow this lead too https://t.co/TYPLwGdduP

— NFL Memes (@NFL_Memes) August 17, 2021

Thanks, needed that . . . first chuckle of the week.

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

"Case data in recent months as of July". Great, can you tell me what "recent months are covered? Is it 2 months, 3 months, 6 months? That can make a hell of a difference in those numbers. If you're talking 6 months ago, how many people were actually vaccinated? 8 months ago? When you go use data that goes back before people were getting vaccinated it highly skews the numbers. How hard would it be to put how many actual months back they're going? Very scientific of them to say "recent months" isn't it?

Do you ever stop and wonder why they do that? If you look at the last months data it's a very different picture than what they're showing here.

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

At this point, the refusal by so many to just get the damned vaccine has wiped out a second year of performing and event work for me.

I give up.

I look at it the other way. As long as you comply with their insanity, this won't go away. I think it's your fault we're still dealing with this insane government over reach.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Well, this doesn't fit the narrative.....


https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/0...ose-with-phds/

Study Finds Most Vaccine-Hesitant Group is Those With PhDs

“What’s more, the paper found that in the first five months of 2021, the largest decrease in hesitancy was among the least educated”

A study conducted by Carnegie Mellon University and University of Pittsburgh researchers found that vaccine hesitancy is highest among those with a PhD.

The online survey of more than 5 million adults was conducted between January 6 and May 31. People who said “probably not” or “definitely not” when asked if they would get the vaccine were considered vaccine hesitant.

“There was not a decrease in hesitancy among those with a professional degree or PhD,” the paper states.

A news release regarding the results explained further: “Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.’s were the most hesitant group.”

[Fish]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

"Case data in recent months as of July". Great, can you tell me what "recent months are covered? Is it 2 months, 3 months, 6 months? That can make a hell of a difference in those numbers. If you're talking 6 months ago, how many people were actually vaccinated? 8 months ago? When you go use data that goes back before people were getting vaccinated it highly skews the numbers. How hard would it be to put how many actual months back they're going? Very scientific of them to say "recent months" isn't it?

Do you ever stop and wonder why they do that? If you look at the last months data it's a very different picture than what they're showing here.

It doesn't necessarily matter which exact months it covers. The vaccines have proven to be an incredible success across the board, and it's pretty silly to deny it at this point. We're at like 4.7 billion doses distributed. Side effects have been incredibly negligible. Breakthrough cases speak for themselves. mRNA technology is going to be a huge part of future treatment. They've already started trials on several mRNA cancer vaccines. As well as many others applications ..

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Well, this doesn't fit the narrative.....


https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/0...ose-with-phds/

Study Finds Most Vaccine-Hesitant Group is Those With PhDs

“What’s more, the paper found that in the first five months of 2021, the largest decrease in hesitancy was among the least educated”

A study conducted by Carnegie Mellon University and University of Pittsburgh researchers found that vaccine hesitancy is highest among those with a PhD.

The online survey of more than 5 million adults was conducted between January 6 and May 31. People who said “probably not” or “definitely not” when asked if they would get the vaccine were considered vaccine hesitant.

“There was not a decrease in hesitancy among those with a professional degree or PhD,” the paper states.

A news release regarding the results explained further: “Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.’s were the most hesitant group.”

How does it not "fit the narrative"? Did you actually read the paper?

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

I look at it the other way. As long as you comply with their insanity, this won't go away. I think it's your fault we're still dealing with this insane government over reach.

That's an incredibly stupid stance.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Thanks for your morning drop in to "unite".

You're not a victim here

I'm pointing out the unhealthy penchant to continue propagating a horrible premise that isn't within a million miles of "unity" ....that you and others have employed during most of this 'pandemic'

[Sure-Oz]

Good read for the vaccine and mask hesitant.

https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/202...7hZqZbnHtgHuY0