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Old 07-24-2021, 11:33 AM  
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:53 PM   #3271
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Taylor didn't fumble a lot though and was great in the passing game. That narrative I pushed around a lot as well.


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Taylor enters his second NFL season as the clear lead back in Indianapolis. The 2020 second-round pick's rookie season got off to a very underwhelming start, as despite a Week 1 season-ending injury to Marlon Mack, Taylor was limited to one top-12 fantasy week in his first 10 games. The light went on from that point forward, however, as he finished 15th or better in each of his final six games. Taylor's efficiency was outstanding, as his 5.0 YPC ranked ninth, his 88% catch rate first and his 7.3 YPT second among backs. The return of Mack and presence of Nyheim Hines on passing downs will limit Taylor's ceiling a bit, but he's a 22-year-old super-athlete who was already third in rushing yards and sixth in fantasy points as a rookie. Taylor is a solid RB1.

It's okay to admit he's better. He is.
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:54 PM   #3272
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I mean, if we had the draft to do over Jonathan Taylor was the clear choice.


Like if you don't agree, you are being a homer. That said, CEH is being under-rated right now.
BS.

Jonathan Tayler had 1000 carries in college. He had more carries than any of the other workhorses to come out of Wisconsin since Ron Dayne. Pretty much all of them have broken down at some point.

Not even considering CEH, there's zero chance I would have spent a high draft pick on Taylor.
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Taylor didn't fumble a lot though and was great in the passing game. That narrative I pushed around a lot as well.





It's okay to admit he's better. He is.
He didn’t fumble “a lot”, but it’s a problem he had in the past and it showed up a couple times again his rookie year.

Taylor was playing behind arguably the best OL in the league.

CEH was playing behind one of the worst run blocking OL’s in the league.
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:55 PM   #3274
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there's zero chance I would have spent a high draft pick on Taylor.
Well you would have been wrong lol
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If you could do it over, don't take a RB that early.
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Old 08-17-2021, 12:56 PM   #3276
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Taylor didn't fumble a lot though and was great in the passing game. That narrative I pushed around a lot as well.





It's okay to admit he's better. He is.
Those stats makes you think he is unquestionably better?
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If you could do it over, don't take a RB that early.
Or this
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CEH is a way better fit for this offense than Taylor. CEH is gonna have a good year.
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Those stats makes you think he is unquestionably better?
Taylor was better in almost every way you can look at it. I happened to quote a fantasy site but who in their right mind would argue CEH was the better choice?


Taylor dominated, he didn't fumble nearly as much as we thought he would and he caught the ball way better than I thought possible.

CEH is good, and will play better this season. But it's insane to ignore what Taylor did last season.
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I mean, if we had the draft to do over Jonathan Taylor was the clear choice.


Like if you don't agree, you are being a homer. That said, CEH is being under-rated right now.
Would you say that Jonathan Taylor has world class speed?
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Well you would have been wrong lol
I won't be in 2 years when he's retired due to injuries.
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If you could do it over, don't take a RB that early.
This is the only right answer.
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Taylor was better in almost every way you can look at it. I happened to quote a fantasy site but who in their right mind would argue CEH was the better choice?


Taylor dominated, he didn't fumble nearly as much as we thought he would and he caught the ball way better than I thought possible.

CEH is good, and will play better this season. But it's insane to ignore what Taylor did last season.
500 of his 1,100 yards came in 3 games.

He was good, but not as good as you’re making him out to be.
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I won't be in 2 years when he's retired due to injuries.

Running backs with low mileage retire early from injuries and running backs with high mileage keep going. You can't act like carries in college 100% predict injury because while it can be a useful tool for betting the odds you actually have no idea.



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500 of his 1,100 yards came in 3 games.

He was good, but not as good as you’re making him out to be.



This reminds me of the guys who say listen such and such running back is actually pedestrian if you take out all his 40+ yard runs.
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Taylor was better in almost every way you can look at it. I happened to quote a fantasy site but who in their right mind would argue CEH was the better choice?


Taylor dominated, he didn't fumble nearly as much as we thought he would and he caught the ball way better than I thought possible.

CEH is good, and will play better this season. But it's insane to ignore what Taylor did last season.
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So 6 good games out of 16 where he finished mid pack or better and its unquestionable.
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