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Old 07-24-2021, 11:33 AM  
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Old 08-18-2021, 09:35 AM   #3361
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I hope so, but im not nearly as convinced as everyone else around here. He still looks like a WR to me. Has legs and ass like a WR, not a TE. Still has the build of a WR and of what little i saw of him blocking last week, he still blocked like a WR.

In my eyes, he still looks every bit the part of a tweener.
If he’s Demetrius Harris with decent hands I’ll be happy. Just a guy who can make a play from time to time, because we know he’ll get opportunities.

Nick Kiezer had those opportunities last year and ****ed us by dropping easy passes.

Just catch the ball and we good
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Old 08-18-2021, 09:38 AM   #3362
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Well one of them doesn't then. So who's right?

The point is, all people do on here is bicker over stupid shit such as pancake blocks with both adamant that they are correct.
In a training camp scrimmage you don't put your full body weight down on your star DT/DE unless you want to start a camp fight. He knocked him on his backside. Jones won one lost one and a possible draw.
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Old 08-18-2021, 09:39 AM   #3363
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I hope so, but im not nearly as convinced as everyone else around here. He still looks like a WR to me. Has legs and ass like a WR, not a TE. Still has the build of a WR and of what little i saw of him blocking last week, he still blocked like a WR.

In my eyes, he still looks every bit the part of a tweener.
Isn't that basically Kelce though?
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Old 08-18-2021, 10:00 AM   #3364
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If he’s Demetrius Harris with decent hands I’ll be happy. Just a guy who can make a play from time to time, because we know he’ll get opportunities.

Nick Kiezer had those opportunities last year and ****ed us by dropping easy passes.

Just catch the ball and we good
That's it.

He's an inch shorter than Harris, but with a 2 inch wider wingspan. Fortson also reminds me of the time we had Leonard Pope, too - same height, but about 15 pounds lighter.

Just a tall, long armed dude that we can chuck it up it to at the goal line if need be.

Dumbastrious Harris with hands would be a fantastic addition, and a possible boxout mismatch if the defense is rolling with 7 DB's.
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Isn't that basically Kelce though?
**** no. Kelce is thicker than Fortson. You look at those two bodies and think they're even remotely similar? Kelce looks the part of a TE. Fortson....looks like a big WR.
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**** no. Kelce is thicker than Fortson. You look at those two bodies and think they're even remotely similar? Kelce looks the part of a TE. Fortson....looks like a big WR.
Kelce plays basically as a big WR though. How he looks isn't really that relevant in terms of what they're asked to do in this offense.
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That's it.

He's an inch shorter than Harris, but with a 2 inch wider wingspan. Fortson also reminds me of the time we had Leonard Pope, too - same height, but about 15 pounds lighter.

Just a tall, long armed dude that we can chuck it up it to at the goal line if need be.

Dumbastrious Harris with hands would be a fantastic addition, and a possible boxout mismatch if the defense is rolling with 7 DB's.
Harris has a TE's thighs and ass. Similar height/weight, totally different build.

Thick thighs and ass is what generates power so a TE can anchor down in his blocks, or power through a LB or a physical DB to gain leverage and positioning.

Fortson running routes and catching passes isn't what's in question here. Those are the tings he SHOULD be good at. It's everything else that's required to be a real TE is what's in question.
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Kelce plays basically as a big WR though. How he looks isn't really that relevant.
No he doesn't. People make that lazy ass comparison and it's always been lazy. Kelce is a TE. He's built like a TE and plays like one too. He's just so damn quick and isn't often asked to block so people compare him to a WR.

A WR he is not.
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No he doesn't. People make that lazy ass comparison and it's always been lazy. Kelce is a TE. He's built like a TE and plays like one too. He's just so damn quick and isn't often asked to block so people compare him to a WR.

A WR he is not.
He's not asked to block much because it's not his strongsuite. Same as Fortson.

Look at guys playing TE around the league. Fortson is fine.
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No he doesn't. People make that lazy ass comparison and it's always been lazy. Kelce is a TE. He's built like a TE and plays like one too. He's just so damn quick and isn't often asked to block so people compare him to a WR.

A WR he is not.
Kelce lined up more snaps in the slot than he did at TE last year so........
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He's not asked to block much because it's not his strongsuite. Same as Fortson.

Look at guys playing TE around the league. Fortson is fine.
Fortson looks nothing like most of the guys around the league playing TE, hence my initial point.

I've never seen a TE with Fortson's build. At least i can't think of any right now. Usually there's a good pro comp for most players. When there isn't, it begs the question of, "well, what IS he then?"
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He's not asked to block much because it's not his strongsuite. Same as Fortson.

Look at guys playing TE around the league. Fortson is fine.
I'm not either and people here are getting butt hurt about it. He didnt crack the roster over Kiezer and Yelder or whatever we trotted out last year. Color me skeptical.
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Kelce lined up more snaps in the slot than he did at TE last year so........
Nothing to do with the way Kelce plays the position. He runs routes, he positions, he catches like a TE. He has the build of a TE.
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