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Old 07-24-2021, 11:33 AM  
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Old 08-20-2021, 12:11 PM   #3706
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Are they really going to keep a full-time FB just to run 50 plays next year?
Yes.

They didn't go out and sign one away from New Orleans because they're phasing it out.

The Fullback is in Andy's DNA.
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Old 08-20-2021, 12:11 PM   #3707
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So if you're not counting Burton on your final roster, you're automatically wrong.
This is just like the people who said we wouldn't start a rookie/multiple on the O-line because Reid doesn't start rookies. As if situations and people can't change
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Old 08-20-2021, 12:13 PM   #3708
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This is just like the people who said we wouldn't start a rookie/multiple on the O-line because Reid doesn't start rookies.
The "Reid doesn't start rookies" has always been bullshit, and i've always argued that too. So yeah, those people were also, very wrong.

"Not starting rookies" is not part of any pattern Andy Reid has displayed.

Carrying a FB IS.
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Old 08-20-2021, 12:14 PM   #3709
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Yes.

They didn't go out and sign one away from New Orleans because they're phasing it out.

The Fullback is in Andy's DNA.
You act as if they got in some bidding war with NO to get him. As if he wasn't just some FA they signed just like any other.
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Old 08-20-2021, 12:39 PM   #3710
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I could see Allegretti getting traded. They’ve got Blythe and LDT, Andy for some reason loves him some Andrew Wylie for god knows why, and we have Kyle Long. Did I mention Remmers could easily play G?

Allegretti struggled with pass pro and he’s only got one more year after this one on a rookie contract.
Perhaps Andy is onto card collecting as well.
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Old 08-20-2021, 12:45 PM   #3711
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I think that's very possible.

I actually think the Chiefs have a ton of tradable guys, such as Fortson, Fountain, and Wenogho.
nobody would trade for that garbage and could get them for free off the practice squad
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Old 08-20-2021, 12:46 PM   #3712
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You act as if they got in some bidding war with NO to get him. As if he wasn't just some FA they signed just like any other.
They signed him, what, 2 weeks into the F/A signing period?

It's not like he was some afterthought either. They clearly sought out to sign a FB.

And if it's a numbers game, then cut Darwin Thompson. They carried 5 backs (4 RB's, 1 FB) last season. So carry 4 this season. Either way, Burton is making this team.

There is no one else on this roster that fits the mold of a true Fullback.
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Is some other team really going to put Darwin Thompson on their active roster? I don't think so, which makes him a perfect PS stash. Not sure the Chiefs need 4 running backs on the active roster, especially if you want to carry 4TEs
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Old 08-20-2021, 01:18 PM   #3714
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It's not hard to find UDFA WRs each year who have the exact same qualities as Fountain. He's not rare or special. His time with the Colts isn't some revelation that gives him a huge leg up. It's basically the same ****ing story as Marcus Kemp. Training camp, big buzz, gets repeatedly cut/squaded/rostered. Eventually shit settled down enough for him to log.... 2 total career catches. That's the exact same number as Marcus Kemp.

Again, we said the same shit about Marcus Kemp. "Tall fast strong!" When Mahomes was a rookie in 2017 and threw his first ever (preseason) TD pass? That was to Marcus Kemp. "These two are gonna grow up well together!"

We see these players every ****ing year. Fountain isn't special. He might make the roster, and he might even move up the depth chart a little bit, but where is the mother****er going to be around this time next year? The exact same position as Kemp. On the roster bubble.

Why not look to a player who had all that potential yadda yadda yadda and actually played up to it by becoming more than a special teams grunt with 2 catches to his name? Daurice Fountain has 2 catches in his career? Byron Pringle has 2 TOUCHDOWNS in his career. He's played in 29 games. It's quite possible that Fountain will never be an active player in the regular season for HALF that many. And that's with Pringle losing an entire year due to injury.

All that work for Pringle and what has it gotten him? WR4. And that's fine. I'm not shitting on him. He can play several more years in the NFL being a WR4. He can have an actual career. But that's somebody who "played up to his potential."

If Fountain plays up to his potential, he'll be right there with Pringle. No better.
Sorry but this is BS. Kemp was a raw undrafted free agent who was a practice squad player before being elevated to the roster to play special teams. Fountain was a talented wr in college who got taken in the 5th round, played in the NFL but injuries hampered his progress. So it's apples and oranges...one wasn't good enough to be drafted whilst the other was but was held back by injuries and that's the only reason why things didn't work in indy..it had nothing to do with talent.

Also people keep banging on about "Kemp is a Toub guy" but Fountain also plays special teams and there's no way in hell Andy is going to let a BETTER WR go because of special teams...no chance.

And also Daurice has never bounced around various teams...he was put on indys practice squad after missing time through injury and veach picked him up off there and he came straight to KC to fight for a place on the roster...and imo another big game tonight from him would pretty much seal the deal...LET'S GO DF!!
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Sorry but this is BS. Kemp was a raw undrafted free agent who was a practice squad player before being elevated to the roster to play special teams. Fountain was a talented wr in college who got taken in the 5th round, played in the NFL but injuries hampered his progress. So it's apples and oranges...one wasn't good enough to be drafted whilst the other was but was held back by injuries and that's the only reason why things didn't work in indy..it had nothing to do with talent.

Also people keep banging on about "Kemp is a Toub guy" but Fountain also plays special teams and there's no way in hell Andy is going to let a BETTER WR go because of special teams...no chance.

And also Daurice has never bounced around various teams...he was put on indys practice squad after missing time through injury and veach picked him up off there and he came straight to KC to fight for a place on the roster...and imo another big game tonight from him would pretty much seal the deal...LET'S GO DF!!
This mf is arguing about a 5th round wideout who couldnt stick on a team vs a udfa like theres a whole hell of a lot of difference on the success rate at that point.

Edit: Kemp is bigger and faster you butt ****ing moron.
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While the Chiefs have clearly been playing him with the 1s this week, he's also getting torched in the 11 v 11s.
ONE PLAY against TYREEK?? really?
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ONE PLAY against TYREEK?? really?
You think he's played well?
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While the Chiefs have clearly been playing him with the 1s this week, he's also getting torched in the 11 v 11s.
Not uncommon to play guys on the bubble with the 1s. Just to see how they perform with the other starters.
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Sorry but this is BS. Kemp was a raw undrafted free agent who was a practice squad player before being elevated to the roster to play special teams. Fountain was a talented wr in college who got taken in the 5th round, played in the NFL but injuries hampered his progress. So it's apples and oranges...one wasn't good enough to be drafted whilst the other was but was held back by injuries and that's the only reason why things didn't work in indy..it had nothing to do with talent.

Also people keep banging on about "Kemp is a Toub guy" but Fountain also plays special teams and there's no way in hell Andy is going to let a BETTER WR go because of special teams...no chance.

And also Daurice has never bounced around various teams...he was put on indys practice squad after missing time through injury and veach picked him up off there and he came straight to KC to fight for a place on the roster...and imo another big game tonight from him would pretty much seal the deal...LET'S GO DF!!
You're right. That was unfair of me. Daurice Fountain isn't Marcus Kemp.

He's Jehu Chesson.
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