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Old 07-24-2021, 11:33 AM  
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Posting this as a repository for random training camp content. Glad to see Andy moving around today without the cane.
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Old 08-23-2021, 11:33 AM   #3901
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The way I see it, there are 39 locks and 11 probables for a total of 51, leaving about 3 roster spots with 10 guys in the 50%+ category.

There are going to be some tough decisions, and a lot of quality players who are going to be cut next week.


39 LOCKS (90%+)
2 QB - Mahomes, Henne
3 RB - CEH, Williams, McKinnon
2 TE - Kelce, Gray
5 WR - Hill, Hardman, Robinson, Pringle
7 OL - Brown, Thuney, Humphrey, Smith, Niang, Remmers, LDT
7 DL - Jones, Wharton, Nnadi, Danna, Reed, Clark, Kaindoh
7 DB - Matheiu, Thornhill, Sorensen, Sneed, Ward, Hughes
4 LB - Hitchens, Bolton, Gay, Niemann*(special teams)
3 ST - Butker, Townsend, Winchester

11 PROBABLE (75%+)
1 RB - Burton
2 TE - Bell, Fortson
1 WR - Powell
3 OL - Remmers, Wylie, Blythe
2 DL - Saunders, Okafor
1 DB - Baker, Fenton

10 TOSS UP (50%+)
1 RB - Thompson
2 WR - Kemp, Fountain
2 OL - Long, Allegretti, Tega Wanaho
1 DL - Ward
1 LB - Cobb
3 DB - Key, Watts, Keyes
Kemp, fountain,ward,Cobb,key. A good player or players gets cut here and plays well for another team. These are tough cuts.
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Old 08-23-2021, 11:34 AM   #3902
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I think waived means you're subject to waivers.

Released means no waivers.
And I guess the main advantage of waivers is they're eligible for the practice squad if they clear.

I wonder if there's a quota of waive versus release.

Also I assume veterans of a certain status can't be waived?
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Old 08-23-2021, 11:35 AM   #3903
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Fountain and Kemp in. Powell out.

And it wouldn't be the first time they cut a rookie 4th round pick.
Powell is a 6th rounder, and was a late bloomer in college. He is the *perfect* PS candidate. I hope he sprains a toe this weekend and ends up on IR.
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Old 08-23-2021, 11:36 AM   #3904
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Has a team ever tried to teach a regular center, or some other position player, to be a long-snapper? It seems like such a ripe position to grab an extra roster spot.
Thought this exact same thing last week. Blows my mind that teams use a roster spot for someone who's exclusively a long-snapper. Guess it's due to not wanting to take practice time away from the 2nd string center.
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Old 08-23-2021, 11:37 AM   #3905
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Has a team ever tried to teach a regular center, or some other position player, to be a long-snapper? It seems like such a ripe position to grab an extra roster spot.
Every team has a designated long snapper... Every college team, even most in DIII, have a dedicated long snapper. The speed and accuracy could win or lose you 2-4 games a year...
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Old 08-23-2021, 11:39 AM   #3906
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We really need a quality #2 WR. I don't know how we get it though.

Can Veach really pull off a trade for a quality WR at this point? Makes you wonder about Julio Jones now. He only played 9 games last year and still got 770 yards.
Nah, as I predicted since before the draft, if this new and improved offensive line is close to what we think it will be, Mahomes will have time to find his 3rd read and he will make JAGs look special, as did other future HOF QB's...
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Old 08-23-2021, 11:40 AM   #3907
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Thought this exact same thing last week. Blows my mind that teams use a roster spot for someone who's exclusively a long-snapper.
Ideally a backup Center/Guard would double as your Long Snapper so he's not seeing game action and getting sweaty/injured/fatigued.

That said, you can't pussy foot around with a risky Long Snapper. If he's nails, you keep him and treat it like your home insurance bill.
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Old 08-23-2021, 11:40 AM   #3908
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Every team has a designated long snapper... Every college team, even most in DIII, have a dedicated long snapper. The speed and accuracy could win or lose you 2-4 games a year...
Plus, there's a decent chance your center will miss at least a little time due to injury. You don't to be missing your center and your long snapper.
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Also I assume veterans of a certain status can't be waived?
Correcto.
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Has a team ever tried to teach a regular center, or some other position player, to be a long-snapper? It seems like such a ripe position to grab an extra roster spot.

I don't think you want your 315 lbs C running down the field covering punts.
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I don't think you want your 315 lbs C running down the field covering punts.
The rest of the backup linemen do.
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Old 08-23-2021, 11:46 AM   #3912
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Every team has a designated long snapper... Every college team, even most in DIII, have a dedicated long snapper. The speed and accuracy could win or lose you 2-4 games a year...
Correct. A bad snap on a punt or field goal is almost always going to either cost your team points or give points to the other team.

It’s not worth it to carry a 7th WR.

Also, why risk the injury to that player and have to find someone else to snap? That timing is so precise.
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The rest of the backup linemen do.
There's no OL on the punt coverage team, I do not believe.

It's mostly LBs, DEs, and TEs along the interior.
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Powell is a 6th rounder, and was a late bloomer in college. He is the *perfect* PS candidate. I hope he sprains a toe this weekend and ends up on IR.
We're both wrong, he was a 5th

I need to lay off the peyote.

But yes, i would not be surprised at all if he sprains a toe before final cuts.
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