***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Meanwhile 100’s of thousands are pouring over the southern border each month with reportedly a 40% positive Covid rate. The next variant has already began in South America so how long will it take to reach the US? Meanwhile neighbors and friends scream at each other about vax vs unvaxxed and often blaming political ideologies but the real “superspreader” event is happening daily pouring over the border. Now let’s talk about who has blood on their hands. Do you like apples? How about them apples?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

From another forum. The people who purvey this anti-vaxx nonsense have blood on their hands.

No, that man made his own decisions and had to deal with it. Don't push the blame. He knew damn well what he was reading.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Meanwhile 100’s of thousands are pouring over the southern border each month with reportedly a 40% positive Covid rate. The next variant has already began in South America so how long will it take to reach the US? Meanwhile neighbors and friends scream at each other about vax vs unvaxxed and often blaming political ideologies but the real “superspreader” event is happening daily pouring over the border. Now let’s talk about who has blood on their hands. Do you like apples? How about them apples?

I'd expect no less than a "Raiders fan" who thinks Carr isn't a good QB. Your ignorance and devouring of stupidity is epic.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Meanwhile 100’s of thousands are pouring over the southern border each month with reportedly a 40% positive Covid rate. The next variant has already began in South America so how long will it take to reach the US? Meanwhile neighbors and friends scream at each other about vax vs unvaxxed and often blaming political ideologies but the real “superspreader” event is happening daily pouring over the border. Now let’s talk about who has blood on their hands. Do you like apples? How about them apples?

I think you're more like Ben Affleck and less like Matt Damon.

"Reeeeetainer."

[loochy]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

I'd expect no less than a "Raiders fan" who thinks Carr isn't a good QB. Your ignorance and devouring of stupidity is epic.

Woah woah woah, let's not get crazy here. Carr sucks.

[TLO]

Good read.

mRNA Vaccination Induces Durable Immune Memory to SARS-CoV-2 with Continued Evolution to Variants of Concern

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...08.23.457229v1

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by loochy

Woah woah woah, let's not get crazy here. Carr sucks.

Only compared to Mahomes, Rogers, and Russell. No other QBs in the NFL are that much better than Carr.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Take your political bullshit to DC... no one here cared the first time and pretty much everything you said is hearsay from one of the dumbest politicians in the US, which has been repeatedly refuted over the past couple of weeks.

This thread went full political pages ago but I guess it’s bullshit if you disagree with one take. Sorry that the elephant in the room got crushed. And pretty much everything I stated is what I have been hearing on my local Bay Area news which leans fairly left but their interviews are with agents working on the border. As far as “dumbest politicians” you will have to be more specific than that as that is currently a large list starting at the very top today lol.

Here’s a reference to the numbers I stated earlier:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...outputType=amp

U.S. authorities intercepted 180,034 migrants along the Mexico border in May, and a growing share have been arriving from nations outside Central America and Mexico, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection data published Wednesday showing illegal crossing at a new 20-year high.

[penguinz]

My Aunt that lives in TX and is on par with the rabid anit-vaxers here was admitted to the ER with covid around 2am this morning. Last I heard she is not doing well.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by penguinz

My Aunt that lives in TX and is on par with the rabid anit-vaxers here was admitted to the ER with covid around 2am this morning. Last I heard she is not doing well.

Is she an illegal Mexican immigrant? I hear that's the source of all the problems in Texas.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Is she an illegal Mexican immigrant? I hear that's the source of all the problems in Texas.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by jdubya

This thread went full political pages ago but I guess it’s bullshit if you disagree with one take. Sorry that the elephant in the room got crushed. And pretty much everything I stated is what I have been hearing on my local Bay Area news which leans fairly left but their interviews are with agents working on the border. As far as “dumbest politicians” you will have to be more specific than that as that is currently a large list starting at the very top today lol.

Here’s a reference to the numbers I stated earlier:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...outputType=amp

U.S. authorities intercepted 180,034 migrants along the Mexico border in May, and a growing share have been arriving from nations outside Central America and Mexico, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection data published Wednesday showing illegal crossing at a new 20-year high.

Yeah, everyone thinks it's about censorship and "you just don't like my opinion", yet never look in the mirror.

There's plenty in this thread I've been skeptical about (without booting everyone) and everyone has their own biases of course, but generally the people who get booted from this thread are just here to stir shit one way or another.... of course politicizing things (and "other people are doing it" isn't an adult argument), or repeating the same things over and over and over to cause drama (and it's the 2nd time now you've brought this up when it was completelyoff topic), or stating those things as fact with nothing to back it up and having no interest in discussion (and I believe that's the first link you've provided).

I googled around last night and easily found several articles about it... several mentioning the 180k number, but a few also mentioned 80% of those people are denied entry... and other articles that go into detail about how all of that works with detainment and Covid testing.

Do I "agree" with what I read? Well, like just about everything, the truth is generally in the middle if you can find an outlet that doesn't have an agenda to grind.

I'm also not going to steamroll into a thread, completely change the topic (twice) while thinly veiling it into political bullshit because I heard something in my echo chamber that I can get on board with to "own" the other side.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Here’s a reference to the numbers I stated earlier:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...outputType=amp
.

You stated that 40% of those crossing the border were covid positive. Nowhere in that article did it state that.

Please cite that reference.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

You stated that 40% of those crossing the border were covid positive. Nowhere in that article did it state that.

Please cite that reference.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Meanwhile 100’s of thousands are pouring over the southern border each month with reportedly a 40% positive Covid rate. The next variant has already began in South America so how long will it take to reach the US? Meanwhile neighbors and friends scream at each other about vax vs unvaxxed and often blaming political ideologies but the real “superspreader” event is happening daily pouring over the border. Now let’s talk about who has blood on their hands. Do you like apples? How about them apples?

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