***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Vaccination Ranking By State. #TheReidOut #reiders pic.twitter.com/6EHZHW4Arp

— The ReidOut (@thereidout) August 24, 2021

Do people in MS and AL ever notice they're always at the bottom of these lists? Do they ever think, "Well I know we’re at the bottom of education and per capita income and a bunch of other stuff. But when it comes to vaccines we’re actually SMARTER than every other state."?

I'm guessing that they don't really read lists.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

Why do covid vaccination rates mean you are smart / dumb?

Oh... they absolutely do.

[eDave]

The currrent leader of the country most of us live in receives inconclusive intelligence report on covid origins.

This person received a classified report from the intelligence community that was inconclusive about the origins of the novel coronavirus, including whether the pathogen jumped from an animal to a human as part of a natural process, or escaped from a lab in central China. Despite analyzing a raft of existing intelligence as well as searching for new clues, intelligence officials fell short of a consensus.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by loochy

Why did they highlight middling Florida and Texas?

2,067 people died of covid in FL and TX last week.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

2,067 people died of covid in FL and TX last week.

Oh, ok. Sooooo....

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by eDave

The currrent leader of the country most of us live in receives inconclusive intelligence report on covid origins.

This person received a classified report from the intelligence community that was inconclusive about the origins of the novel coronavirus, including whether the pathogen jumped from an animal to a human as part of a natural process, or escaped from a lab in central China. Despite analyzing a raft of existing intelligence as well as searching for new clues, intelligence officials fell short of a consensus.

The entire world should be looking to move manufacturing to other countries. Not easy or cheap, but necessary.

[O.city]

https://twitter.com/_lewisy/status/1...558430210?s=21

[DaFace]

A booster shot of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine dramatically raises the levels of antibodies against the coronavirus, the company reported.

The drugmaker hopes the new data will allow its shots to be included in President Biden’s booster plan.https://t.co/plnOiLx0Bl

— The New York Times (@nytimes) August 25, 2021

[loochy]

Originally Posted by DaFace

A booster shot of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine dramatically raises the levels of antibodies against the coronavirus, the company reported.

The drugmaker hopes the new data will allow its shots to be included in President Biden’s booster plan.https://t.co/plnOiLx0Bl
— The New York Times (@nytimes) August 25, 2021

For Pfizer/Moderna people, or just for J&J people?


I'd think that a mix of the two types would be ideal, actually.

[lawrenceRaider]

Did this get posted here? CDC is now saying first US death from COVID was in Kansas week ending January 11th 2020.

https://kansasreflector.com/2021/08/...-january-2020/

[TLO]

Originally Posted by loochy

For Pfizer/Moderna people, or just for J&J people?


I'd think that a mix of the two types would be ideal, actually.

Well this is talking just JJ folks. But preliminary data shows mRNA recipients get a big boost in antibody levels after their booster too.

Yay antibody levels.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Did this get posted here? CDC is now saying first US death from COVID was in Kansas week ending January 11th 2020.

https://kansasreflector.com/2021/08/...-january-2020/

First case death of Covid, and home of the Phelps. Come visit!

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Did this get posted here? CDC is now saying first US death from COVID was in Kansas week ending January 11th 2020.

https://kansasreflector.com/2021/08/...-january-2020/

Isn't this saying the first case in KS, not in the US?

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Isn't this saying the first case in KS, not in the US?

Can anyone read? DEATH, not case.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data indicate there was a death in Kansas during the week ending Jan. 11, 2020, which would make it the earliest known death from COVID-19 anywhere in the United States. CDC media communications staff didn’t respond to multiple inquiries for this story.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I don't honestly think anyone is dumb enough to think Thalidomide was FDA approved for pregnant women. If they are, a cursory google search would quickly dispel that notion.

Good information is out there and it's easy to find, thankfully.

Revisiting this idea:

A woman reveals to the Greenville, SC School Board tonight that she has uncovered a plot by the CDC to shut down schools and turn them into Nazi-style concentration camps, where children will be taken away from their parents, and couples separated from each other. pic.twitter.com/AZjEY70GGv

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) August 25, 2021

The scary part? All of the people clapping at the end.