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**wazu** · 07-24-2021, 11:33 AM

Posting this as a repository for random training camp content. Glad to see Andy moving around today without the cane.

Andy Reid rocking the all white Air Force 1s with white tube socks.#Chiefs #ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/opdxFDbTsh
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IowaHawkeyeChief · 08-25-2021, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Brady is a fraud. His greatness is based on results only. Bill cheated him to 3 and the kicker actually won the 3 games because Brady couldn't get enough points. That's not greatness. He must have an elite OL, defense and running game to win anything. he has zero play maker ability.

As much as I dislike Brady, he does have IT... a lot of that is his leadership that elevates his team mates. I think Mahomes is way better and will be the GOAT, but Tom, while lucky as ****, took advantage of the luck. Again, I hate that ****er...

kcclone · 08-25-2021, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Brady is a fraud. His greatness is based on results only. Bill cheated him to 3 and the kicker actually won the 3 games because Brady couldn't get enough points. That's not greatness. He must have an elite OL, defense and running game to win anything. he has zero play maker ability.

Football is a team sport. There are no QB's with multiple SB's who didn't play with some good teammates & coaches. You sound like a clown when you say a guy who has won 7 Super Bowls on two different teams is a fraud. Two of those, he either beat or went through Mahomes in the AFCCG.

Three of those he either beat or went through Reid.

Beef Supreme · 08-25-2021, 09:42 AM

In years past we would be arguing that Shane Buchelle should be starting over whatever broke dick we were trotting out at qb that season. Thank God we aren't there anymore.

Red Dawg · 08-25-2021, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

As much as I dislike Brady, he does have IT... a lot of that is his leadership that elevates his team mates. I think Mahomes is way better and will be the GOAT, but Tom, while lucky as ****, took advantage of the luck. Again, I hate that ****er...

I think Brady is a great QB but he isn't 7 rings great that he gets all the credit for. No matter how shitty he plays he gets credit if the team wins. Not to mention the ref love. He gets more breaks from ****ing refs it makes it almost impossible to beat him unless you have a massive lead. We have picked him twice in the post season and both were called back from penalty. I said publicly on here the one team we would not beat in the SB was TB because the refs will **** us and they did.

Troy Aikman has 3 rings and he never gets brought up as being great because of what he had around him. OL, defense, Smith and Irvin get all the credit.

That's my problem with Brady and the stupid media love.

ThaVirus · 08-25-2021, 09:46 AM

Mahomes was pretty lucky to have won the Super Bowl he's got as well. He also got pretty unlucky the other two seasons in which he easily could have won.

Give Brady his credit. He is lucky as hell, but he does a great job of capitalizing on the fortuitous positions he finds himself. I don't think he's the best QB of all-time, but he is certainly top 5. And when you're talking about the top 5, really any of those guys have a strong argument for being the GOAT.

Direckshun · 08-25-2021, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Mahomes was pretty lucky to have won the Super Bowl he's got as well. He also got pretty unlucky the other two seasons in which he easily could have won.

Give Brady his credit. He is lucky as hell, but he does a great job of capitalizing on the fortuitous positions he finds himself. I don't think he's the best QB of all-time, but he is certainly top 5. And when you're talking about the top 5, really any of those guys have a strong argument for being the GOAT.

True story, actually.

Since the NFL has a ton of parity, you want to play the style that gives you the best chance probabilistically.

Brady's mental advantage and playing style give him that. Mahomes' Superman-isms won't always save the day, but eventually he'll become Brady-esque with better physical abilities.

UChieffyBugger · 08-25-2021, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Down votes are different than actual negative rep on an actual football disagreement... Did you give him neg rep or just down votes?

Down votes because he was insulting folks for believing Daurice Fountain can bring something different to this team smh.

AdolfOliverBush · 08-25-2021, 10:05 AM

Brady isn't a fraud. He's very good, and extremely lucky. Lucky in many ways, from being drafted by exactly the right team at exactly the right time, to the serious injury suffered by then-superstar Drew Bledsoe, to the 20-year collapse of the other AFC East teams. Then he goes to the Bucs who are mediocre for most of the season, then the defense heats up at the right time and carries the team (a theme throughout Brady's career) through the playoffs.

Brady is Alex Smith with slightly larger testicles.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 08-25-2021, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Down votes because he was insulting folks for believing Daurice Fountain can bring something different to this team smh.

Oh, I thought he posted a screen shot of negative rep, my bad...

Deberg_1990 · 08-25-2021, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

Brady isn't a fraud. He's very good, and extremely lucky. Lucky in many ways, from being drafted by exactly the right team at exactly the right time, to the serious injury suffered by then-superstar Drew Bledsoe, to the 20-year collapse of the other AFC East teams. Then he goes to the Bucs who are mediocre for most of the season, then the defense heats up at the right time and carries the team (a theme throughout Brady's career) through the playoffs.

Brady is Alex Smith with slightly larger testicles.

Every great QB gets lucky at times. Peyton Manning in his two Super Bowl wins didn’t really do anything special. Just got carried by his defense.

**Bwana** · 08-25-2021, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

I see DRob more as a safety net rather than a long term #3 WR. Yeah, "he knows the system" but I'm not buying the myth that it takes 3 years to learn it. Go where PMII tells you, look for the ball, catch the ball and hold it close like your girlfriend or puppy, run forward. How hard is that? If Fountain/Kemp/Powell/Pringle can do that, DRob can go. I almost gave my son-in-law a heart attack last week when I screamed at the TV "Run forward" at DRob.

I was up in the mountains ATVing Saturday and was in a bar eating a bite after the fact when the game was on, with no sound. With that said, I had recorded the playback on NFL Network and watched it with the"bonus sound" last night.

It looked like he was participating on Dancing with the stars, with all the lateral movement and not heading up field. I was thinking, hopefully this isn't our best option for returns.

AdolfOliverBush · 08-25-2021, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Every great QB gets lucky at times. Peyton Manning in his two Super Bowl wins didn’t really do anything special. Just got carried by his defense.

True, every great QB gets lucky sometimes, but their greatness generally isn't defined by luck. Brady is intelligent and works his ass off, but luck made him what he is today.

**Buehler445** · 08-25-2021, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

DRob is a below average JAG. I can't stand him.

But Fountain's been flashing in the preseason against the 2s and 3s and 4s (?). Let's not get too excited.

There is a level worse than DRob, guys. I know it's hard to comprehend.

I trust whatever Veach/Reid decide, but I think there's virtually no chance that he's losing his roster spot to the Fountains of the world.

I keep hearing this. And not just from you Twisted, so this isn't pointed specifically at you, but my ****, do people not remember anything pre-Mahomes?

I mean for ****s sake in 2008 Mark Bradley, the #3 guy caught 30 balls (on 62 targets!) for a smashing 380 yards. He outpaced our #2 receiver, Devard Darling with 17 receptions (on 32 targets

) and a league shattering 247 yards.

Y'all mother****ers forget god ****ing Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards?

ThyKingdomCome15 · 08-25-2021, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

Brady isn't a fraud. He's very good, and extremely lucky. Lucky in many ways, from being drafted by exactly the right team at exactly the right time, to the serious injury suffered by then-superstar Drew Bledsoe, to the 20-year collapse of the other AFC East teams. Then he goes to the Bucs who are mediocre for most of the season, then the defense heats up at the right time and carries the team (a theme throughout Brady's career) through the playoffs.

Brady is Alex Smith with slightly larger testicles.

Manning was better. He just didn't have the defenses NE had.

suzzer99 · 08-25-2021, 11:22 AM

I think they're showing off and pumping up Darwin in hopes of getting a 7th rounder for him or another team's cast off that they like. Or just to be nice so that he lands somewhere. I think he's gone.

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