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Why would someone need to take a shot with no long term studies and risk adverse reaction when they are already better protected than the vaccinated? Unless they are in high risk category it makes no sense. For that reason alone it makes these mandates ridiculous. |
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09-22-2021, 09:29 AM | #56117 | |
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09-22-2021, 09:33 AM | #56118 |
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Natural immunity is going to wane as well. Just depends on the antigenic drift of the pathogen
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09-22-2021, 09:43 AM | #56119 |
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Sure, but so is vaccine immunity. If my J&J vaccine at 70% (or whatever) effectiveness is good enough, I'm generally comfortable with antibody-proven natural immunity being allowed as well for now at least. If we get better data about waning immunity, that opinion would change.
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09-22-2021, 09:47 AM | #56120 | ||
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Talking to my uncle yesterday that lives in Vegas and is 83, he got his 2nd shot Moderna back in February and ended up in the hospital a couple of weeks ago with Covid. He said he wasn't to bad off but he was there for a few days. For people his age they are going to need a booster for sure. |
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09-22-2021, 10:04 AM | #56121 |
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Antibody test should be the standard. Via prior infection or vaccination.
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09-22-2021, 10:07 AM | #56122 |
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09-22-2021, 10:24 AM | #56123 |
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I was inoculated, had serious side effects and still caught covid. 24 hours after the jab I was at a restaurant and saw the room spinning at high speed and my heartbeat became irregular. Held on to the table to prevent falling off the chair until my wife grabbed me and led me to a couch. After 30 minutes she helped me to the car and she dove us home. Here is my overriding concern. There is no way to discern which conflicting covid information is reliable and which is agenda driven. Should you believe politicians, bureaucrats, doctors, hospitals, media, drug companies and others who may have and ax to grind which overrides concerns about our health? We all should be prudently skeptical. My college aged son asked me last night if he should be vaccinated. I told him it was his call and discussed my experience, thoughts and that I would not recommend it.
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09-22-2021, 10:32 AM | #56124 | |
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Media? Politicians? Sure. I get the skepticism. But we have an agency whose entire mission is to synthesize research and coordinate responses to diseases. If you are confused about what's real and what isn't, they have tons of information to help walk you through it. |
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09-22-2021, 10:43 AM | #56125 | |
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Which is why it's very hard to make policy based on whether or not someone was sick with covid. It works on a personal level - if you know you had it and know your were sick. But it falls down hard on a policy level - since so many people will think they had it but didn't, and how do you define "sick"? |
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09-22-2021, 10:46 AM | #56126 | |
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09-22-2021, 10:47 AM | #56127 | |
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However, making it standard that anyone who has been vaccinated or recovered from COVID gets an antibody test X number of days after test/vaccine would take care of that.
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09-22-2021, 10:51 AM | #56128 |
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09-22-2021, 11:21 AM | #56129 |
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I sent this PSA to a buddy that is on the fence about getting vaccinated.
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09-22-2021, 11:22 AM | #56130 | |
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Very interesting. I feel like the world is a lot like the Internet these days, where people pick an opinion and then defend it to the death (literally in this case), regardless of whether they learn more that would change their conclusions. I retain a hope that if people keep seeing facts, then they can keep weighing the data, and at some point they can be rational and change their minds without believing that it's a loss of pride to do so. I think it's a great sign of intelligence to do that.
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