Chiefs Things that need to change for us to turn it around

**RollChiefsRoll** · 10-10-2021, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ljmhawk

funny how you mentioned nothing about the offense except for Gordon….has this team never seen a Cover 2 in their life? jesus christ….you would think we are playing the steel curtain defense or the Ray Lewis Ravens. the offense is not focused at all. Maybe Mahomes should focus more on his team instead of making commercials or flying off to golf tournaments and NBA playoff games. drops, fumbles, interceptions.

Yeah Mahomes is the problem.

-King- · 10-10-2021, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll

Yeah Mahomes is the problem.

He's on pace for a 20INT season. That's...part of the problem.

KC_Connection · 10-10-2021, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

He's on pace for a 20INT season. That's...part of the problem.

Time for a more risk averse QB. Alex Smith perhaps?

-King- · 10-10-2021, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Time for a more risk averse QB. Alex Smith perhaps?

Yeah sure.

I don't even think it's worth debating you over Mahomes. If you can't even admit that he had a bad game and that 20 interceptions would be terrible, then I don't know what the point in going back and forth with you would be.

KC_Connection · 10-10-2021, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah sure.

I don't even think it's worth debating you over Mahomes. If you can't even admit that he had a bad game and that 20 interceptions would be terrible, then I don't know what the point in going back and forth with you would be.

He’s not going to throw 20 interceptions. My advice would be to stop bitching about the NFL’s best QB (who has played at an elite level this season and has the offense leading the league in DVOA) and focus more on what the actual issue with the team is (the near historically bad defense that gives the #1 offense virtually no room for error).

-King- · 10-10-2021, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

He’s not going to throw 20 interceptions. My advice would be to stop bitching about the NFL’s best QB (who has played at an elite level this season and has the offense leading the league in DVOA) and focus more on what the actual issue with the team is (the near historically bad defense).

Or....if he plays bad I can talk about that while also talking about the dog shit defense.

You can do both you know.

You can make a compilation of the throws that Mahomes spiked into the ground. But I guess those were great accurate spikes to you huh?

KC_Connection · 10-10-2021, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Or....if he plays bad I can talk about that while also talking about the dog shit defense.

You can do both you know.

You can make a compilation of the throws that Mahomes spiked into the ground. But I guess those were great accurate spikes to you huh?

To say that he’s not an elite passer this year shows a gross misunderstanding of what is actually going on.

RaidersOftheCellar · 10-11-2021, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah sure.

I don't even think it's worth debating you over Mahomes. If you can't even admit that he had a bad game and that 20 interceptions would be terrible, then I don't know what the point in going back and forth with you would be.

20 INT isn't terrible if paired with 55 TDs. I also highly doubt that he'll have 20. Most of them have been unlucky.

FloridaMan88 · 10-11-2021, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

He's on pace for a 20INT season. That's...part of the problem.

All but maybe one or two of his INT's this season were unlucky bounces off WR's hands.

And the 2nd INT tonight was just a great play by Rousseau.

It's not like he's throwing them recklessly into triple coverage.

lcarus · 10-11-2021, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

All but maybe one or two of his INT's this season were unlucky bounces off WR's hands.

And the 2nd INT tonight was just a great play by Rousseau.

It's not like he's throwing them recklessly into triple coverage.

Yep and a couple other interceptions were 3rd and long plays that basically ended up as short punts. Yeah, you don't want them to occur, but you can live with them. The fumbles have been the big issue. We're sitting pretty at 4-1 right now if our guys could hold on to the football. And that is even with our trash defense and brutal schedule. Mahomes has been amazing this year.

TEX · 10-11-2021, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Yep and a couple other interceptions were 3rd and long plays that basically ended up as short punts. Yeah, you don't want them to occur, but you can live with them. The fumbles have been the big issue. We're sitting pretty at 4-1 right now if our guys could hold on to the football. And that is even with our trash defense and brutal schedule. Mahomes has been amazing this year.

Naw. 3 -2. If you're gonna site fumbles as the reason for losses, you have to also look at the other side of the coin and apply it. We beat Cleveland b/c they fumbled.

tk13 · 10-11-2021, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

All but maybe one or two of his INT's this season were unlucky bounces off WR's hands.

And the 2nd INT tonight was just a great play by Rousseau.

It's not like he's throwing them recklessly into triple coverage.

That's kind of the beauty of playing that safe Cover 2 though. Dungy and Lovie Smith made a living at that. Play the Cover 2 all day and keep everything in front of you. Every time a ball goes through the hands of a WR, and it will happen, it's a potential INT.

**LoneWolf** · 10-11-2021, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

He's on pace for a 20INT season. That's...part of the problem.

2 of his 6 interceptions are a direct result of him making a mistake. Three of them went through his receiver’s hands and one was a fluke/phenomenal play by a defensive end. Mahomes is not part of the problem.

The offense has moved the ball pretty much at will against every team they’ve played. It hasn’t been as flashy as in years past because of the deep cover 2 teams are playing, but they have been patient and methodical on offense. Turnovers is what has stymied the offense. I expect that to even out over the season.

I did like what I saw from the defense in the second half of this game. More aggressive, bringing pressure from different levels, and they played their younger, faster players. I believe the defense only gave up 7 points in the second half.

emaw1979 · 10-11-2021, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

He's on pace for a 20INT season. That's...part of the problem.

Two of them are on him. The rest are dropped passes that ricocheted into the defender's hands, fluked tip ball at the line of scrimmage, and a stopped route.

ljmhawk · 10-10-2021, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll

Yeah Mahomes is the problem.

i mean he’s throwing a lot of INTs and his throws haven’t been looking too good….so yeah he is part of the problem.