Chiefs Who do you MOST blame for the team's issues? - Page 4

**DaFace** · 10-11-2021, 09:23 AM

Do we need another thread to gripe about last night? Of course we do! So here's one more.

Pick an option or add your own.

**fan4ever** · 10-11-2021, 09:56 AM

I think this whole team needs a good old fashion ass chewing...not that it's going to happen.

I think of the glaring differences between our D and the defenses we've faced so far this year is that their D's fly to the ball, hit you hard and don't wait for the play to come to them.

If we're going to get smoked each week at least put some hurt on the other guy.

DRM08 · 10-11-2021, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 493rd

Oh, and the offense, Andy Reid in particular deserves plenty of blame for its inability to solve the Cover 2 riddle. I think we were exposed and don’t have enough playmakers on offense to be consistently good when Hill is a non-factor. Notice the 2 victories we have this year - Hill has big games in both. All 3 losses - nothing. Reid should have a contingency plan for this every week but it doesn’t seem like it.

You have to hope Josh Gordon will end up being an impact player. If they are lucky and he can be a really good 3rd option in the passing game, that will make a huge impact. They dearly miss the healthy version of Sammy Watkins and obviously Kareem Hunt.

mkp785 · 10-11-2021, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

I picked :

EB sucks at calling plays (probably why he isn't a HC)
CJ needs to be at DT
and LBs can't stop anything

If the front seven weren't so god-awful, the secondary would be better.

EB can't get the blame when Fat Andy has been known as the mastermind of all of this. The whole reason we heard that EB can't get a job is Andy calls all the plays. OK, then. So Andy needs to take the blame for not being able to design plays that work.

He hasn't been the same since his POS son(who I hope gets the maximum jail time possible) acted a fool super bowl weekend.

**Rain Man** · 10-11-2021, 10:20 AM

1. Our DE play has been abysmal. Can't hold the edge, can't rush the passer. The move turned Chris Jones into Tanoh Kpassagnon.
2. We're "taking what the defense gives us" instead of letting our stars rape and pillage at will.
3. I'm not positive that we have linebackers on the field on most plays. I'm going to start counting players before the snap to see if there are 11 players.

rabblerouser · 10-11-2021, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I’m just surprised how many people are shrugging off the offense and giving them a pass from “pressure to score a lot.” When has that ever been a problem in the past? We are used to being in every game regardless of defensive performance. That didn’t happen last night because the offense sucked. There were plenty of plays to make. This wasn’t the Super Bowl where it was basically impossible to score.

I think Reid is great at what he does, and when he's in a rhythm with things running well, then it's GREAT.

Man, he just does not adjust well. Like in the Super Bowl, just keep throwing into 2 deep zones, Cover 2 Chief Killer, doesn't keep anyone in to block, doesn't call shorter routes with shorter steps for Patrick...

Reid and EB must've gotten complacent or something.

I'll tell you this - it's not just the stalking/harassing women and DWIs that have kept EB from getting a top job, we can see that clearly now.

**wazu** · 10-11-2021, 10:31 AM

Need a “Britt Reid” option.

TLO · 10-11-2021, 10:32 AM

I blame X-Factor

**Easy 6** · 10-11-2021, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

I think Reid is great at what he does, and when he's in a rhythm with things running well, then it's GREAT.

Man, he just does not adjust well. Like in the Super Bowl, just keep throwing into 2 deep zones, Cover 2 Chief Killer, doesn't keep anyone in to block, doesn't call shorter routes with shorter steps for Patrick...

Reid and EB must've gotten complacent or something.

I'll tell you this - it's not just the stalking/harassing women and DWIs that have kept EB from getting a top job, we can see that clearly now.

I DEFINITELY smell the work of a former RB on this staff when it comes to all these run calls on first down, and other critical junctures when the ball should be in Mahomes hands...

Graystoke · 10-11-2021, 10:33 AM

The Meltdown Lounge. Classic

cosmo20002 · 10-11-2021, 10:34 AM

No Refs/NFL is rigged choice

I don't think that, but it's generally a CP favorite excuse.

**The Franchise** · 10-11-2021, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

I DEFINITELY smell the work of a former RB on this staff when it comes to all these run calls on first down, and other critical junctures when the ball should be in Mahomes hands...

The last 4 games have been a “we’re going to prove that CEH was a first round pick” gameplan.

**Easy 6** · 10-11-2021, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Graystoke

The Meltdown Lounge. Classic

Don't get all preachy man, we're on pace to be the 7th worst defense ever recorded... if that isn't bitch worthy, nothing is

DJ's left nut · 10-11-2021, 10:38 AM

I went with the DL sucks.

But at the same time - it's hard to know if they actually suck this bad. There are times they are winning their rep but the back end is breaking down so frequently and so fast that the QB can get the ball out before the rush can get there.

T-post Tom · 10-11-2021, 10:39 AM

Lots of reasons cited here that are valid. As bad as he’s been in the past, Peter King brought up a valid point that has been covered repeatedly here at CP:

“And that Kansas City defense. Frighteningly bad. I go back to draft day 2020 and think of the Clyde Edwards-Helaire pick. He’s been a B player. Imagine if that pick had been at a defensive need spot—at safety, maybe, where Antoine Winfield Jr., went 13 picks after Edwards-Helaire, or at corner, where Trevon Diggs went 19 picks after the runner. The Edwards-Helaire pick sounded great at the time, but needs were glaring elsewhere, and those needs really showed up all over the field Sunday night—and in the team’s 2-3 start.”

CEH should not have been drafted in Rd 1. Seems like many poor personnel decisions have been made on the defensive side of the ball. This defense is woefully short on talent. Lighting candles that someone at 1 Arrowhead Drive figures this out soon.

cosmo20002 · 10-11-2021, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Don't get all preachy man, we're on pace to be the 7th worst defense ever recorded... if that isn't bitch worthy, nothing is

I agree...we're (probably) not going 2-15, and I think we'll probably make the playoffs (but it ain't a sure thing)...and considering that legit expectations were at least a SB appearance...a little meltdown seems warranted at this point.

View Poll Results: Who do you MOST blame for the team's issues? (pick up to three)
Mahomes has regressed	21	12.35%
Our RBs are JAGs	26	15.29%
The OTs aren't holding up	8	4.71%
We have no WR2	28	16.47%
Hill can't get open against Cover 2	7	4.12%
Andy has lost his touch	21	12.35%
EB sucks at calling plays	19	11.18%
The DL just plain sucks	76	44.71%
Chris Jones should never have been moved to DE	36	21.18%
Frank Clark's salary is weighing us down	32	18.82%
We have no legit CBs	15	8.82%
Our LBs can't stop anything.	66	38.82%
Daniel Sorensen. Enough said.	61	35.88%
They refuse to play Thornhill	17	10.00%
Teams have solved Spags' defense	35	20.59%
Veach sucks	12	7.06%
Create your own adventure! (add in the thread)	13	7.65%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 170. You may not vote on this poll

10-11-2021, 09:23 AM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $-1683101	Who do you MOST blame for the team's issues? Do we need another thread to gripe about last night? Of course we do! So here's one more. Pick an option or add your own.
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10-11-2021, 09:56 AM	#46
fan4ever Supporter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $4234389	I think this whole team needs a good old fashion ass chewing...not that it's going to happen. I think of the glaring differences between our D and the defenses we've faced so far this year is that their D's fly to the ball, hit you hard and don't wait for the play to come to them. If we're going to get smoked each week at least put some hurt on the other guy. __________________ "You will never reach your destination if you stop and throw rocks at every dog that barks" - Winston Churchill
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10-11-2021, 10:20 AM	#49
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-482449 VARSITY	1. Our DE play has been abysmal. Can't hold the edge, can't rush the passer. The move turned Chris Jones into Tanoh Kpassagnon. 2. We're "taking what the defense gives us" instead of letting our stars rape and pillage at will. 3. I'm not positive that we have linebackers on the field on most plays. I'm going to start counting players before the snap to see if there are 11 players. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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10-11-2021, 10:31 AM	#51
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $-1497705 VARSITY	Need a “Britt Reid” option.
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10-11-2021, 10:32 AM	#52
TLO Life is changing.. Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NW Missouri Casino cash: $-2390000	I blame X-Factor
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10-11-2021, 10:33 AM	#54
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10-11-2021, 10:34 AM	#55
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10-11-2021, 10:38 AM	#58
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-660901	I went with the DL sucks. But at the same time - it's hard to know if they actually suck this bad. There are times they are winning their rep but the back end is breaking down so frequently and so fast that the QB can get the ball out before the rush can get there. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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10-11-2021, 10:39 AM	#59
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1897293	Lots of reasons cited here that are valid. As bad as he’s been in the past, Peter King brought up a valid point that has been covered repeatedly here at CP: “And that Kansas City defense. Frighteningly bad. I go back to draft day 2020 and think of the Clyde Edwards-Helaire pick. He’s been a B player. Imagine if that pick had been at a defensive need spot—at safety, maybe, where Antoine Winfield Jr., went 13 picks after Edwards-Helaire, or at corner, where Trevon Diggs went 19 picks after the runner. The Edwards-Helaire pick sounded great at the time, but needs were glaring elsewhere, and those needs really showed up all over the field Sunday night—and in the team’s 2-3 start.” CEH should not have been drafted in Rd 1. Seems like many poor personnel decisions have been made on the defensive side of the ball. This defense is woefully short on talent. Lighting candles that someone at 1 Arrowhead Drive figures this out soon. __________________ You seem nice!
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