Chiefs Who do you MOST blame for the team's issues? - Page 6

**DaFace** · 10-11-2021, 09:23 AM

Do we need another thread to gripe about last night? Of course we do! So here's one more.

Pick an option or add your own.

JakeF · 10-11-2021, 11:54 AM

The team wasn't ready .... again.

Slow start ....... again

Sloppy play .... again

Not playing the best players

Needs not filled, even though the needs were pretty obvious

Play calling was sketchy, on both sides of the ball. Just like before.

How many times does the exact same shit have to happen before we hold the people in charge, responsible. If the players suck, then why are those players still here? We're having the same issues, can't or won't fix them. We keep letting the same players do the same crappy things. Either coach the mistakes out of them or cut them.

This team has been sloppy, softy and undisciplined for a long time. We just have had enough elite talent to make up for it. I guess we don't have enough talent to make up for it anymore. That's disturbing.

**gblowfish** · 10-11-2021, 11:57 AM

No sacks, no fumbles forced, no picks.
Reed does not show up on the stat sheet.
Frank Clark had one tackle.

No Big Macs today. God Damnit!!!

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! · 10-11-2021, 12:00 PM

You will like this! Sorensen played every single defensive snap last night. Thornhill played less than 50%

tyecopeland · 10-11-2021, 12:00 PM

Wheres the refs option? I would have clicked it too.

tyecopeland · 10-11-2021, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

No, but I think Mahomes is being dragged down by his shitty team-mates.

Mahomes 1 bad game is not a top 3 reason why this team sucks.

Good thing I picked way more than three then

TEX · 10-11-2021, 12:04 PM

I voted DL and LB's and JAG RB's.

DRM08 · 10-11-2021, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Papi

Mahomes definitely. We win with Mahomes magic or lose without it. Simple as that. That's what this team is made to do with the limited defensive talent we have.

You have $70M of cap hits for 5 worthless players on defense. How is that Mahomes’ fault? His cap hit is under $8M. Maybe that $70M money should have been spent on RB/WR, since it’s been a total waste on ineffective defensive players.

FloridaMan88 · 10-11-2021, 12:06 PM

Marcus Kemp having more tackles this season than Frank Clark basically is everything that is wrong with this team.

LongSufferingToady · 10-11-2021, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

The unit to blame is the offense. No one, coaches included, was good except Kelce and I guess the line was fine.

You've got to be kidding. Any defense that allows 38 points just makes things damn near impossible for the offense.

And yes, last night the offense was inept, mistake-riddled, and lacked confidence.

Sassy Squatch · 10-11-2021, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LongSufferingToady

You've got to be kidding. Any defense that allows 38 points just makes things damn near impossible for the offense.

And yes, last night the offense was inept, mistake-riddled, and lacked confidence.

God Damn. We're blaming the pick 6 on the defense too? Poor bastards.

EPodolak · 10-11-2021, 12:07 PM

I didn't see a straight Spags option. Other teams "solving the defense" isn't what feels true, it's just a bad defense. I think a different DC could make that unit at least average. Seems to me a lot of offense problems come from pressure to be perfect every drive.

JakeF · 10-11-2021, 12:11 PM

Mahomes did not play well against Buffalo. That probably validates that Buffalo's defense is one of the best. They have corners that can really cover.

Buffalo is everything we aren't

Josh Allen would be our best Running Back.

I think our coaches stink.

**The Franchise** · 10-11-2021, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

God Damn. We're blaming the pick 6 on the defense too? Poor bastards.

They ****ing deserve it.

Megatron96 · 10-11-2021, 12:14 PM

It’s actually a combination of several issues, a few of which are listed in the OP, but the number 1 problem isn’t even listed: our offensive skill players. KC is ranked 31st in T/O ratio, ahead of only JAC. Think about that for a minute.

And Mahomes is responsible for half of those.

The defense, play-calling, etc., Yes, those are real problems, but if they don’t stop turning the ball over 2+ times/game fixing the other stuff won’t matter anyway.

blake1771 · 10-11-2021, 12:27 PM

1. defensive line. We get zero push and zero pressure without blitzing.

2. turnovers, but the offense in general if you can't gash a team by running the ball against 2 deep safety look, you're in trouble. You're forced to dink and dunk down the filed and this team isn't disciplined enough to either not commit penalties or not turn it over.

3. coaching all the way around. Pringle running kicks back out of the end zone. Defense not knowing the calls and getting calls in too late and perhaps an overly complicated scheme. Defense is often out of position through a lack of execution (players) but also having Sorenson on Diggs for example (scheme). Andy failing to coach like he has the best QB in the league and the worst defense in the league.

View Poll Results: Who do you MOST blame for the team's issues? (pick up to three)
Mahomes has regressed	21	12.35%
Our RBs are JAGs	26	15.29%
The OTs aren't holding up	8	4.71%
We have no WR2	28	16.47%
Hill can't get open against Cover 2	7	4.12%
Andy has lost his touch	21	12.35%
EB sucks at calling plays	19	11.18%
The DL just plain sucks	76	44.71%
Chris Jones should never have been moved to DE	36	21.18%
Frank Clark's salary is weighing us down	32	18.82%
We have no legit CBs	15	8.82%
Our LBs can't stop anything.	66	38.82%
Daniel Sorensen. Enough said.	61	35.88%
They refuse to play Thornhill	17	10.00%
Teams have solved Spags' defense	35	20.59%
Veach sucks	12	7.06%
Create your own adventure! (add in the thread)	13	7.65%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 170. You may not vote on this poll

10-11-2021, 09:23 AM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $-1673101	Who do you MOST blame for the team's issues? Do we need another thread to gripe about last night? Of course we do! So here's one more. Pick an option or add your own.
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10-11-2021, 11:54 AM	#76
JakeF MVP Join Date: May 2017 Casino cash: $9990400	The team wasn't ready .... again. Slow start ....... again Sloppy play .... again Not playing the best players Needs not filled, even though the needs were pretty obvious Play calling was sketchy, on both sides of the ball. Just like before. How many times does the exact same shit have to happen before we hold the people in charge, responsible. If the players suck, then why are those players still here? We're having the same issues, can't or won't fix them. We keep letting the same players do the same crappy things. Either coach the mistakes out of them or cut them. This team has been sloppy, softy and undisciplined for a long time. We just have had enough elite talent to make up for it. I guess we don't have enough talent to make up for it anymore. That's disturbing.
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10-11-2021, 11:57 AM	#77
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $16896178 VARSITY	No sacks, no fumbles forced, no picks. Reed does not show up on the stat sheet. Frank Clark had one tackle. No Big Macs today. God Damnit!!!
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10-11-2021, 12:00 PM	#78
VAGOMO 4 LIFE! In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2018 Casino cash: $6350400	You will like this! Sorensen played every single defensive snap last night. Thornhill played less than 50%
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10-11-2021, 12:00 PM	#79
tyecopeland Veteran Join Date: May 2019 Casino cash: $-739590	Wheres the refs option? I would have clicked it too. __________________
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10-11-2021, 12:04 PM	#81
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Galveston, TX Casino cash: $-1236873	I voted DL and LB's and JAG RB's. __________________ "Do we have time to run WASP?"
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10-11-2021, 12:06 PM	#83
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-537094	Marcus Kemp having more tackles this season than Frank Clark basically is everything that is wrong with this team.
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10-11-2021, 12:07 PM	#86
EPodolak Spooky Action Join Date: Dec 2003 Casino cash: $-977442	I didn't see a straight Spags option. Other teams "solving the defense" isn't what feels true, it's just a bad defense. I think a different DC could make that unit at least average. Seems to me a lot of offense problems come from pressure to be perfect every drive.
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10-11-2021, 12:11 PM	#87
JakeF MVP Join Date: May 2017 Casino cash: $9990400	Mahomes did not play well against Buffalo. That probably validates that Buffalo's defense is one of the best. They have corners that can really cover. Buffalo is everything we aren't Josh Allen would be our best Running Back. I think our coaches stink.
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10-11-2021, 12:14 PM	#89
Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: North Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-1749600	It’s actually a combination of several issues, a few of which are listed in the OP, but the number 1 problem isn’t even listed: our offensive skill players. KC is ranked 31st in T/O ratio, ahead of only JAC. Think about that for a minute. And Mahomes is responsible for half of those. The defense, play-calling, etc., Yes, those are real problems, but if they don’t stop turning the ball over 2+ times/game fixing the other stuff won’t matter anyway. __________________ *“Some ideas are so stupid only intellectuals believe them.”*- George Orwell Steven "Spags" Spagnuolo is my Adopt-A-Chief!!!
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10-11-2021, 12:27 PM	#90
blake1771 Starter Join Date: Nov 2013 Casino cash: $8955960	1. defensive line. We get zero push and zero pressure without blitzing. 2. turnovers, but the offense in general if you can't gash a team by running the ball against 2 deep safety look, you're in trouble. You're forced to dink and dunk down the filed and this team isn't disciplined enough to either not commit penalties or not turn it over. 3. coaching all the way around. Pringle running kicks back out of the end zone. Defense not knowing the calls and getting calls in too late and perhaps an overly complicated scheme. Defense is often out of position through a lack of execution (players) but also having Sorenson on Diggs for example (scheme). Andy failing to coach like he has the best QB in the league and the worst defense in the league.
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