Chiefs Brown or Fish? - Page 4

bricks · 10-25-2021, 08:23 AM

I thought I’d pose this question for the Chiefs left tackle position because I’m curious to know your opinions and how you feel who is the better player for the Chiefs when comparing those two players.

I’m disappointed in Orlando Brown so far. He hasn’t been playing up to expectations. No way is he an elite left tackle at least I say this for now because of the way he is playing. Some games he is getting beat like crazy.

Fisher on the other hand, when he was with us was a solid player. I don’t consider Fishers performance to be that of a #1 overall pick like Orlando Pace and he never will be that guy. Yeah he got beat a good handful of games but overall generally speaking he was solid.

What say you? Is there much of a difference between Fishers play in the past compared to Orlando Browns play today? Which performance was better Fisher past performance at LT or Orlando Browns play at LT right now? I don’t know
if I see much of a difference and so I thought I’d ask.

Maybe Fish’s performance in the past might be better?

Gary Cooper · 10-25-2021, 02:12 PM

If he can't block Jones or Clark in practice, he has no business being a starting LT in the NFL. That should be the test this week. The Titans 3rd string tackles looked like Hall of Famers yesterday.

T-post Tom · 10-25-2021, 02:16 PM

Wish they would have tried to hire Dan Roushar away from the ‘Aints. Or someone of his caliber to coach up the o-line. Asst HC or whatever it would have taken. The current coaching staff was not up to having this revamped o-line ready.

https://www.neworleanssaints.com/tea...er/dan-roushar

Red Dawg · 10-25-2021, 02:38 PM

Brown ****ing sucks. He can't block speed. He's just big as hell with long arms. Veach ****ed up and wasted another first 2 years in a row. Clyde is another waste of a first.

tredadda · 10-25-2021, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Brown ****ing sucks. He can't block speed. He's just big as hell with long arms. Veach ****ed up and wasted another first 2 years in a row. Clyde is another waste of a first.

Wrong. While Brown hasn't turned out like we hoped, he was still the best option available at the time. Considering we got Baltimore's 2nd rounder (who ended up being Bolton) out of it we were able to come out on top with Bolton and Humphrey.

Since you consider the use of that 1st on Brown, who would you have taken with the #31 pick? Also between Bolton and Humphrey, who would you sacrifice as we would not have gotten both?

ChiefsCountry · 10-25-2021, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Brown ****ing sucks. He can't block speed. He's just big as hell with long arms. Veach ****ed up and wasted another first 2 years in a row. Clyde is another waste of a first.

This means we don't have to worry about Brown and CEH now.

**BossChief** · 10-25-2021, 03:06 PM

It’s not just Browns handling of pass rushers, it’s his complete lack of mobility that’s killing this offense. The reason Reid and Dorsey took Fish #1 is because he can handle speed rushers, but could move extremely well. That’s critical in an offense that likes to attack horizontally.

We just can’t run a lot of the types of plays Reid likes to run without a LT that can get out in space to block LBers and DBs. Brown can’t change his spots, either. He is what he is.

Even though it sucks to say that.

**BossChief** · 10-25-2021, 03:12 PM

If we could go back in time, the universe wanted us to sign Trent Williams. His salary would be Beown plus Reed (who hasn’t been a difference maker, anyway). That was absolutely a deal we needed to get signed.

Silverback
Thuney
Humphrey
Smith
Remmers

Mahomes would have time to scan the field and wouldn’t be making the rushed mistakes he’s making consistently by not having any time.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-25-2021, 03:16 PM

Looks like we'll be picking #1 next year so we can draft the best Fatty

**Easy 6** · 10-25-2021, 03:18 PM

I'm just not a fan of revisionist history exercises like this, its pointless

Fish is gone, and Silverdick was never here... we have what we have, and need to focus on what we can do with them IMO

JakeF · 10-25-2021, 03:43 PM

Last year, we lost all sorts of Olineman and still won. After we lost Fisher, we've never been the same.

Fisher is able to move with Mahomes, Brown can't.

No-brainer, Fisher.

T-post Tom · 10-25-2021, 11:26 PM

No Gaz or Willie Roaf options? I need a hug.

tredadda · 10-25-2021, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF

Last year, we lost all sorts of Olineman and still won. After we lost Fisher, we've never been the same.

Fisher is able to move with Mahomes, Brown can't.

No-brainer, Fisher.

Fisher was injured and there was no guarantee he would be the same player after his injury. You are making it seem like we cut a healthy Fisher for Brown.

Titty Meat · 10-25-2021, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

If we could go back in time, the universe wanted us to sign Trent Williams. His salary would be Beown plus Reed (who hasn’t been a difference maker, anyway). That was absolutely a deal we needed to get signed.

Silverback
Thuney
Humphrey
Smith
Remmers

Mahomes would have time to scan the field and wouldn’t be making the rushed mistakes he’s making consistently by not having any time.

And we would still be a bad football team because this team has no pass rush and I'm thankful we didnt sign William's because 25 million a year tied into a middle 30s LT isnt what this team needs. Thankfully we will be able to shed alot of the deadweight big money guys this off season.

Titty Meat · 10-25-2021, 11:41 PM

BTW Williams has been hurt already this year which isnt unusual for him. I just dont get where this idea that Williams is the missing piece.

kccrow · 10-26-2021, 12:46 AM

The question posed is Fisher's play in the past vs Brown's current play. The answer is undoubtedly Fisher and it isn't even close.

If you were to ask me now? It doesn't much matter. Fisher isn't 100% and therefore playing about as slow as Brown. That doesn't change the fact that Brown doesn't fit this offense at LT. I don't even think he's a fit at RT.

10-25-2021, 08:23 AM
bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9732559	Brown or Fish? I thought I’d pose this question for the Chiefs left tackle position because I’m curious to know your opinions and how you feel who is the better player for the Chiefs when comparing those two players. I’m disappointed in Orlando Brown so far. He hasn’t been playing up to expectations. No way is he an elite left tackle at least I say this for now because of the way he is playing. Some games he is getting beat like crazy. Fisher on the other hand, when he was with us was a solid player. I don’t consider Fishers performance to be that of a #1 overall pick like Orlando Pace and he never will be that guy. Yeah he got beat a good handful of games but overall generally speaking he was solid. What say you? Is there much of a difference between Fishers play in the past compared to Orlando Browns play today? Which performance was better Fisher past performance at LT or Orlando Browns play at LT right now? I don’t know if I see much of a difference and so I thought I’d ask. Maybe Fish’s performance in the past might be better?
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10-25-2021, 02:12 PM	#46
Gary Cooper MVP Join Date: Nov 2020 Casino cash: $-1189600	If he can't block Jones or Clark in practice, he has no business being a starting LT in the NFL. That should be the test this week. The Titans 3rd string tackles looked like Hall of Famers yesterday.
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10-25-2021, 02:16 PM	#47
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1797293	Wish they would have tried to hire Dan Roushar away from the ‘Aints. Or someone of his caliber to coach up the o-line. Asst HC or whatever it would have taken. The current coaching staff was not up to having this revamped o-line ready. https://www.neworleanssaints.com/tea...er/dan-roushar __________________ You seem nice!
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10-25-2021, 02:38 PM	#48
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $1322858	Brown **ing sucks. He can't block speed. He's just big as hell with long arms. Veach **ed up and wasted another first 2 years in a row. Clyde is another waste of a first. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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10-25-2021, 03:06 PM	#51
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1685912	It’s not just Browns handling of pass rushers, it’s his complete lack of mobility that’s killing this offense. The reason Reid and Dorsey took Fish #1 is because he can handle speed rushers, but could move extremely well. That’s critical in an offense that likes to attack horizontally. We just can’t run a lot of the types of plays Reid likes to run without a LT that can get out in space to block LBers and DBs. Brown can’t change his spots, either. He is what he is. Even though it sucks to say that. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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10-25-2021, 03:12 PM	#52
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1685912	If we could go back in time, the universe wanted us to sign Trent Williams. His salary would be Beown plus Reed (who hasn’t been a difference maker, anyway). That was absolutely a deal we needed to get signed. Silverback Thuney Humphrey Smith Remmers Mahomes would have time to scan the field and wouldn’t be making the rushed mistakes he’s making consistently by not having any time. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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10-25-2021, 03:16 PM	#53
Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1509523	Looks like we'll be picking #1 next year so we can draft the best Fatty
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10-25-2021, 03:18 PM	#54
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $-92225	I'm just not a fan of revisionist history exercises like this, its pointless Fish is gone, and Silverdick was never here... we have what we have, and need to focus on what we can do with them IMO
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10-25-2021, 03:43 PM	#55
JakeF MVP Join Date: May 2017 Casino cash: $9990400	Last year, we lost all sorts of Olineman and still won. After we lost Fisher, we've never been the same. Fisher is able to move with Mahomes, Brown can't. No-brainer, Fisher.
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10-25-2021, 11:26 PM	#56
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1797293	No Gaz or Willie Roaf options? I need a hug. __________________ You seem nice!
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10-25-2021, 11:41 PM	#59
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1092442	BTW Williams has been hurt already this year which isnt unusual for him. I just dont get where this idea that Williams is the missing piece.
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10-26-2021, 12:46 AM	#60
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1200000	The question posed is Fisher's play in the past vs Brown's current play. The answer is undoubtedly Fisher and it isn't even close. If you were to ask me now? It doesn't much matter. Fisher isn't 100% and therefore playing about as slow as Brown. That doesn't change the fact that Brown doesn't fit this offense at LT. I don't even think he's a fit at RT.
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