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**petegz28** · 09:46 PM

As much as some don't want to admit or accept it, the fact is that the high-flying offense we have seen the last few years is gone for the moment. But we can change that if we force teams to defend something else.

1. Run the ball more. DW and Gore should be active in running and catching out of the backfield. Gore has patients and vision that CEH does not.

2. Take the shorter passes first and check down to the deeper pass. Quit waiting to see if someone deep will open up. Dink-dunk.

3. Patience. We ran the ball one drive for almost the entire drive and scored a TD. Next drive we never ran the ball once and punted.

The simple fact is teams are daring us to run the ball and play the short game betting that we either won't stick with it or will **** ourselves. If we quit turning over the ball the rest we can do.

Once we win a few games running the ball and playing ball control then teams will have no choice to start bringing more players down into the box and then we can go back to tearing shit up in the air.

Until then, 6 or 7 in the box should be run or dink-dunk with some PA pass. The RPO stuff might have to take a bit of a backseat for a bit.

kccrow · 11-01-2021, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

ummm he is missing a shit ton of throws. He looks like a QB with zero confidence and isn't trusting his eyes and is worried about getting sacked.

Yep. I'm a bit concerned he caught David Carr syndrome to be honest. He is watching the rush waaaaaaaaaaaay too much this year and it's holding the offense back.

I think he doesn't trust Brown and if he doesn't then you have to change that situation in the offseason above all else.

**Easy 6** · 11-01-2021, 11:00 PM

When your receiver room is one and a half people, and your O line is better at run blocking as currently built... do the obvious thing and adjust your scheme, Andy

You can always get a new tackle situation next year and go back to bombs away

Hammock Parties · 11-01-2021, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF

Gore can absolutely break runs for longer than 10 yards. Didn't he have a 10+ yard negated by a penalty against the Giants?

Prove it.

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The only real problem is that i doubt we can trust Andy to manage a game involving a running game.

Maybe you should watch some of his Eagles teams.

How old are you?

It doesn't even matter because Andy always plays to his team's strengths.

What you don't even realize:

AFTER DERRICK GORE'S DRIVE THE CHIEFS RAN THE BALL 11 TIMES FOR 39 YARDS.

YOU WANT TO SUSTAIN AN OFFENSE BASED ON 3.5 YPC?!?!?

Hammock Parties · 11-01-2021, 11:05 PM

JakeF, Pete and Easy 6's ideal franchise back. Feed him 25 times a game.

Mecca · 11-01-2021, 11:05 PM

We're a team built on offense that didn't replenish it's weapons.

**BossChief** · 11-01-2021, 11:09 PM

Facts

Our OTs struggle blocking the edges. Pat doesn’t trust them, at all.
Robinson, Pringle and the rest of these WRs are JAGs, at best.
Everyone on our OL is a good to great run blocker with plus size.
Our top 2 RBs are bangers.

So, you take Robinson/Pringle off the field a little more and add Bell or Gray a little more and flex Bell/Grayout wide or back as a full back and run an up tempo offense. Give Mahomes a system similar to what Peyton had where he could prevent defenses from making substitutions and attacked defenses weaknesses.

**BossChief** · 11-01-2021, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

We're a team built on offense that didn't replenish it's weapons.

And we went all in trying to get Trent Williams and struck out.

If they had a solid LT as a pass protector, we could run the same offense as we’re used to.

With this set of OTs, we can’t run that offense.

We need a counter punch and the counter punch is obvious.

Hammock Parties · 11-01-2021, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

We're a team built on offense that didn't replenish it's weapons.

We didn't replenish a brokedick Sammy Watkins? What?

Shut up dipshit. You get to pipe your long haired dumbass down for six more days. We won.

**Easy 6** · 11-01-2021, 11:13 PM

Its a safer bet than trying to feed Pringle and Robinson all night

These no name backs actually make a decent platoon

Hammock Parties · 11-01-2021, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

We need a counter punch and the counter punch is obvious.

Short passes.

We are full up on butt runs. More than 20 a game and Creed's ass starts to chafe.

Mecca · 11-01-2021, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

We didn't replenish a brokedick Sammy Watkins? What?

Shut up dipshit. You get to pipe your long haired dumbass down for six more days. We won.

Yea if you haven't noticed no one we plays cares about anyone not named Hill or Kelce..

Refusing to move on from the Robinsons and Kemp's is a real issue.

suzzer99 · 11-01-2021, 11:15 PM

As we talked about on the Athletic Football Show last week with @pff_seth and @PFF_DLee, 2-high shells were up about 14 percent leaguewide through the first 7 weeks. It really does feel like we're moving toward this world.

Here's that whole story. https://t.co/ZTZw04jeMj
— Robert Mays (@robertmays) November 2, 2021

Hammock Parties · 11-01-2021, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Yea if you haven't noticed no one we plays cares about anyone not named Hill or Kelce..

Refusing to move on from the Robinsons and Kemp's is a real issue.

The Chiefs are fine.

They just need to stop turning it over.

If they don't turn it over twice tonight they have 30 points, maybe 34.

Hammock Parties · 11-01-2021, 11:16 PM

I mean ****.

I'm old enough to remember when Patrick had no Tyreek Hill and no left tackle and threw for 4 TDs in one quarter.

Patrick will get his shit squared.

****ing chicken littles.

Mecca · 11-01-2021, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Chiefs are fine.

They just need to stop turning it over.

If they don't turn it over twice tonight they have 30 points, maybe 34.

It's 2 months, maybe it's who they are now?

11-01-2021, 09:40 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1145873	We saw the formula for this offense going forward against the Giants... As much as some don't want to admit or accept it, the fact is that the high-flying offense we have seen the last few years is gone for the moment. But we can change that if we force teams to defend something else. 1. Run the ball more. DW and Gore should be active in running and catching out of the backfield. Gore has patients and vision that CEH does not. 2. Take the shorter passes first and check down to the deeper pass. Quit waiting to see if someone deep will open up. Dink-dunk. 3. Patience. We ran the ball one drive for almost the entire drive and scored a TD. Next drive we never ran the ball once and punted. The simple fact is teams are daring us to run the ball and play the short game betting that we either won't stick with it or will **** ourselves. If we quit turning over the ball the rest we can do. Once we win a few games running the ball and playing ball control then teams will have no choice to start bringing more players down into the box and then we can go back to tearing shit up in the air. Until then, 6 or 7 in the box should be run or dink-dunk with some PA pass. The RPO stuff might have to take a bit of a backseat for a bit. Last edited by petegz28; 11-01-2021 at 09:46 PM..
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1775912	Facts Our OTs struggle blocking the edges. Pat doesn’t trust them, at all. Robinson, Pringle and the rest of these WRs are JAGs, at best. Everyone on our OL is a good to great run blocker with plus size. Our top 2 RBs are bangers. So, you take Robinson/Pringle off the field a little more and add Bell or Gray a little more and flex Bell/Grayout wide or back as a full back and run an up tempo offense. Give Mahomes a system similar to what Peyton had where he could prevent defenses from making substitutions and attacked defenses weaknesses. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $-222225	Its a safer bet than trying to feed Pringle and Robinson all night These no name backs actually make a decent platoon
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11-01-2021, 11:16 PM	#134
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $760478	I mean **. I'm old enough to remember when Patrick had no Tyreek Hill and no left tackle and threw for 4 TDs in one quarter. Patrick will get his shit squared. **ing chicken littles. __________________ Chiefs game films
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