***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Any particular reason not to trust the Texas state health department?

Of course not. Individuals who refuse to acknowledge reality will find a reason though.

[RetiredSeniorChief]

Almost 2 years into this and I've not been sick. I don't and haven't used the mask (which as an Industrial Hygienist I know is total BS), no vaccine, no social distancing, shook hands, went to church, etc... I do take 8000 IUs of D3 everyday and for years take quinine for leg nerve pain from being in a Helo crash. In short, I've literally changed nothing except I refuse to fly because of all the hysterical BS. Bottom line; you can live in fear or you can live.

[suzzer99]

Yeah the 750k dead Americans just need to show the virus less fear and take vitamin D.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Yeah the 750k dead Americans just need to show the virus less fear and take vitamin D.

Fauci takes 8000 iu Vitamin D himself but questions the utility for everyone else.

Funny, isn't it?

[TLO]

8000 iu's seems excessive. Not an expert in the area whatsoever but that seems like a very high dose.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Any particular reason not to trust the Texas state health department?

They quoted a CDC study on natural immunity that looks like junk.

They used statistical manipulation in the article multiple times to average in data before most people were vaccinated to make the vaccines appear more effective.

Other than that, I'm sure they mean well.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TLO

8000 iu's seems excessive. Not an expert in the area whatsoever but that seems like a very high dose.

He's older so that might be appropriate.

I take 5000 in the winter in New York.

[Otter]

I had a shoulder injury from mountain biking and was in hospital not too long ago. Tested positive for the kung flu and to be honest, I couldn't even tell I was sick outside of having to clear my throat every once in awhile. My brother was the same way.

I'm not vaccinated and neither was my brother.

This is not a statement on pro or anti vax but simply information. It's a weird, unpredictable disease.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Otter

I had a shoulder injury from mountain biking and was in hospital not too long ago. Tested positive for the kung flu and to be honest, I couldn't even tell I was sick outside of having to clear my throat every once in awhile. My brother was the same way.

I'm not vaccinated and neither was my brother.

This is not a statement on pro or anti vax but simply information. It's a weird, unpredictable disease.

Well, congratulations on your "covid" hospitalization.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Well, congratulations on your "covid" hospitalization.

Ironic part is I caught it while in the hospital. I wouldn't want to be in the health care field right now.

Hospitalization was initially for dislocated shoulder.

When the autopsy peeps are going over me I image it's going to be something like "Holy shit, did an ogre use this guy as a fly swatter?".

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Otter

I had a shoulder injury from mountain biking and was in hospital not too long ago. Tested positive for the kung flu and to be honest, I couldn't even tell I was sick outside of having to clear my throat every once in awhile. My brother was the same way.

I'm not vaccinated and neither was my brother.

This is not a statement on pro or anti vax but simply information. It's a weird, unpredictable disease.

If you're going to get it, that's the way to do it.

I remember reading something a while back about a theory that severity might be related to the viral load that a person got at the time of infection. So if you were in a hospital and spent ten minutes in a room with someone who had it, your case will likely be less severe. But if you were working in a cubicle for eight hours with someone who had it, your case will likely be more severe. I wonder if that theory has been confirmed or refuted by later data.

For the most part, I try to not spend a lot of time in a closed room with a lot of people. I had to break that rule for a birthday dinner last week, so I'm hoping that I'm still breathing easily in 14 days.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

He's older so that might be appropriate.

I take 5000 in the winter in New York.

More isn't better with VitD, dummy.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

I got both doses of Pfizer this spring. Started feeling pretty sick yesterday and went to the doctor. Tested positive for COVID. Last night was the sickest I've been in many years. Cold, hot, nauseous, achy, nightmares, pounding headache etc. I'm not quite so bad today but can't walk very far because I'm so weak. I also still have a debilitating headache.

I've done a ton of traveling lately so who knows where I got it or who I've spread it to. The timing is horrible because we were just out of work for a week for SEMA in Vegas and one of my coworkers didn't make it back yet. He had a massive stroke the first night we were there. I'm supposed to be covering for him at work and now I'm out too. ****....

One note is that last Thursday I developed a rash on both arms. It wasn't like a rash I've ever had before and there was no obvious reason. It went away after a few days. A Google search indicates that plenty of people get a rash as their first symptom of COVID.

[suzzer99]

Stories like this are why I got the booster at pretty much the first opportunity. I'll take whatever tiny extra risk of myocarditis or whatever over going through that.

[Monticore]

Local LTC facility has an outbreak at the moment 33 cases and as of yesterday no deaths and 1 hospitalization , all residents are vaccinated i doubt the results would have been similar pre vaccinations.