***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[HonestChieffan]

Monday Ill get my booster jab. So glad we have these vaccines

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

In the medical instruction manual, euphoria is right next to euthanasia. It sounds like you got lucky.

Obviously has nothing to do with the vaccine. A hard week of productive work. Just happy to be relaxing.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Nope.

On a separate but related note, although not a ton, I have seen kids die of COVID. I've seen a larger number that needed a vent, and many, many kids that were hospitalized for either acute treatment, or MIS-C as a result of post-COVID effects. I've seen NICU kids delivered over three months early because of COVID + moms. I haven't personally seen any kids that required treatment as a result of vaccine side effects. Get your kids vaccinated. If you're worried about them feeling under the weather for a few days, try to schedule the shot on a Friday.

Thanks. We’re planning on getting the twins vaccinated here as soon as we can schedule an appointment.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Nope.

On a separate but related note, although not a ton, I have seen kids die of COVID. I've seen a larger number that needed a vent, and many, many kids that were hospitalized for either acute treatment, or MIS-C as a result of post-COVID effects. I've seen NICU kids delivered over three months early because of COVID + moms. I haven't personally seen any kids that required treatment as a result of vaccine side effects. Get your kids vaccinated. If you're worried about them feeling under the weather for a few days, try to schedule the shot on a Friday.

That’s what I did on my first two shots, I did it on a Friday, so that I won’t have to worry about the weekend if I started to feel any side effects. I only felt a small headache and was slightly more tired on the 2nd shot, but the next day, felt fine.

So yeah, definitely agree with your suggestion on doing it on a Friday.

[TLO]

Few hours in. Some very mild soreness in my arm. Maybe a 2 out of 10. I'm taking some Tylenol before bed in hopes to ward off any pain that may come later.

That's it so far.

[PHOG]

Woke up just fine, just a minor pain in the arm. No worries.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by PHOG

Woke up just fine, just a minor pain in the arm. No worries.

Minor pain in my arm as well. Slept well last night.

I'm noticing some minor fatigue, but it isn't awful.

Unless it hits me hard later the side effects from the 3rd shot were much more mild then the 2nd

[PHOG]

Originally Posted by TLO

Minor pain in my arm as well. Slept well last night.

I'm noticing some minor fatigue, but it isn't awful.

Unless it hits me hard later the side effects from the 3rd shot were much more mild then the 2nd

Well, the wife woke with a small bump at the shot site, with a little soreness and minor fatigue also. Nothing major.

[TLO]

Arm still hurts. Some noticeable tiredness and fatigue. Really not bad at all, but I'm glad I have the day off today and tomorrow to just chill.

[TLO]

I don't like this

Today in the USA, over 132,000 new cases, 7-day average back up to ~80,000
Over 2,100 deaths
Test positivity >5% for the first time in a month
Fasten your seat belts pic.twitter.com/OGinZwyRBA

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) November 13, 2021

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

I don't like this

Today in the USA, over 132,000 new cases, 7-day average back up to ~80,000
Over 2,100 deaths
Test positivity >5% for the first time in a month
Fasten your seat belts pic.twitter.com/OGinZwyRBA

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) November 13, 2021

We are headed into winter, an uptick should have been expected. Covid is headed towards a flu-like recurrence. We as a medical society are learning more and more every day about treatment and all the other stuff.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

We are headed into winter, an uptick should have been expected. Covid is headed towards a flu-like recurrence. We as a medical society are learning more and more every day about treatment and all the other stuff.

I'm curious we'll have a quiet flu season again with covid still on the block

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

I'm curious we'll have a quiet flu season again with covid still on the block

I bet not. People are relaxing, kids returning to school, along with all the other similar things. Flu season will return to somewhat normal and we will still have Covid. Hopefully, the testing will be more accurate for both and we will be able to gather proper data for all things, and then we will be able to get closer to viral normalcy next year.

[InvinciBill]

FWIW my 6 and 8 year olds have had no side effects from the pediatric Pfizer 1st dose.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I bet not. People are relaxing, kids returning to school, along with all the other similar things. Flu season will return to somewhat normal and we will still have Covid. Hopefully, the testing will be more accurate for both and we will be able to gather proper data for all things, and then we will be able to get closer to viral normalcy next year.

I think people really underestimate the effect of so many kids doing remote school last winter and how that pushed down the spread of the flu. Add to that a lot of people working from home, masking, and social distancing and we had a perfect situation for reduced flu spread.