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Agreed.
I don't know that he'll ever be the sort of explosive player that can force teams out of shells against us, but he's clearly a better complement to the offense than anyone else we have available. Like I said several weeks ago - Veach had a plan for CEH and I think it was a good one in a vacuum. He just never figured teams would sell out THIS much to stop our downfield passing game and suddenly we're a fast-back away from being able to do much about it. Though I still think he's wildly underutilized in the passing game. I still can't quite figure out why people are coming out of the woodwork after yesterday's game, though. I thought the difference between him and Williams was night and day. CEH is clearly the more effective option for us.
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I didn't feel like Mahomes was taking too long to unload or getting himself sacked. OBJ just didn't have an answer for Parsons. A lot of teams are going to have that problem going forward. Parsons is a hell of a player. Ironically he reminds me a little of Melvin Ingram, especially the peak version of him. That Ingram could win with speed or power (this one's mostly power). Parsons is like that only faster. Right now he doesn't have quite Ingram's power, but he'll get there. He's going to be a handful for a long time. I didn't really expect him to be a real EDGE kind of player coming out of the draft, but that's looking like who he may end up being. His ceiling really could be Khalil Mack if he can continue to add functional strength. No shame in getting your shit pushed in by a future All Pro - happens to all but the very best. And he's a particularly bad matchup for a guy like Brown.
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We're looking at CEH through ONE facet of his skillset with his best skills being ignored. I really don't get it. If he's catching 6-7 balls out in the flats per game as well as 12-15 runs, you'd be getting a ton of production and I think we'd all be pleased. |
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Putting CEH out in the pattern gives Patrick an outlet, but keeping him in to block gives Patrick a little more time to find guys downfield. At this stage in PM's career, he's going to be looking for the Hill and Kelce more. And that's the way the offense is designed anyway - with those two as his 1 and 2 reads. I do wish there were just a handful of designed wheel/arrow routes each game though, if for no other reason than to keep defenses honest. Without the threat of the blitz anymore, CEH is kinda wasted as someone you keep in to chip an edge.
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Yes and no. He can’t do it on his own. But he can be an extremely potent piece of the puzzle if his unique traits are utilized effectively.
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the big knock on Clyde's blocking... We almost never keep a back in to block. Why are we playing guys because we trust their blocking? I get that they trust Williams in every facet, but nobody ever blitzes, so why is our back's blocking so important? |
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I get it for the approach from 2 years ago when teams would throw Zero Coverages at us and send blitzes to try to rattle Mahomes. But nobody blitzes anymore. So CEH is just chipping and drifting into the flats where PM just isn't terribly likely to go with the ball. So if the blitz has been effectively neutered by PM, CEH should be running routes into the intermediate parts of the field where we know PM will look with the ball anyway. It should serve to pull safeties down into the box a little more as well. It's just made me wonder what it is am missing. What is it about this game that I think I know that I clearly do not. Because Andy definitely knows more about this game than I do.
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Just because other teams don’t blitz doesn’t mean we don’t need help blocking.
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I mean c'mon folks - CEH averaged better than 5 yards/carry with a long of only 14. He wasn't padding his average with garbage yards or a single busted run. That's a hell of a good complementary day for a guy that was running damn hard inside.
Meanwhile Williams went 5/15 w/ 1 carry making up 10 of his 15 yards. He got 5 on his other 4. Take away CEH's best carry and he's still good for nearly 5 yards per tote. Take away Williams and he may as well have not even suited up. Williams also only had 1 catch on 3 targets for 11 yards whereas CEH had 2 catches for 13 yards on 2 targets. Guy's just a more effective back and if you can't see that, you're not doing this right.
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