Have you ever had C-DIF (bacteria infection in your colon) or in your household?

[TinyEvel]

Like any sensible human being I am turning to Chiefs Planet to validate my medical concerns...

A close friend is scheduled to visit their mom in a week, and the mom was just notified she has C-Dif. Just started antibiotics.

The mom has had diarrhea for months.

Supposedly this is pretty contagious through any microscopic fecal contact but the C-Dif spores can also live on surfaces for months and even on the infected person's skin (so washing hands after pooping is just one precautionary measure)

What's your real-world experience with C-DIF?

Asking for a friend before they cancel their trip.

(only tips include: washing all household touch surfaces with bleach, only bleach will do. Washing laundry on hot with bleach especially towels sheets wash cloths and underwear. Bathroom disinfection, obviously. Wash hands after going to bathroom obviously. But no touching at all?)

[Crush]

Also, the diarrhea that came out of me is the worst thing I’ve ever smelled in my life.

[locomoulds]

C-Diff is the worst. 100 percent do not visit that house. If you do end up visiting load up on probiotics.

I had C-Dif last year and couldn’t shake it for 3 months. It drains your soul and has something like a 6 percent death rate. Makes Rone look like nothing. I am s dealing with the side effects of c-did 18 months later. The only thing that kills c-dif spores is bleach.

[dirk digler]

Yes that is basically what killed my mom. She got it in the nursing home and it turned into toxic megacolon. Don't think she ever got rid of the c diff we brought her home and I took care of her until she passed. I wore gloves and It did smell bad obviously and very running,

[Why Not?]

You would think the mother would cancel the trip? If I had something as horrible as this sounds, I would tell my kids to stay the **** away from me until I was sure it was gone. Obviously, an end of life scenario like dirk was describing would be different, but a holiday trip or whatever? Nope.

[Bwana]

Until this thread, I didn't know something like this existed. After researching it, it doesn't sound fun.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Until this thread, I didn't know something like this existed. After researching it, it doesn't sound fun.

Me neither.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I've had a few dudes who've damaged my colon but not an infection

That's really more of an invasion than an infection

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Me neither.

With that said, note to self, avoid.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

You would think the mother would cancel the trip? If I had something as horrible as this sounds, I would tell my kids to stay the **** away from me until I was sure it was gone. Obviously, an end of life scenario like dirk was describing would be different, but a holiday trip or whatever? Nope.

Yeah, if I've got uncontrollable turbo diarrhea that smells like demon ass, the last thing in the world I'd want is a house full of family...

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by lewdog

You don’t have to do droplet precautions for C-Diff, but definitely contact precautions.

I’d also not stay there.

I assume flushing the toilet could make it somewhat airborne .

also
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20415567/
BACKGROUND. The high transmissibility and widespread environmental contamination by Clostridium difficile suggests the possibility of airborne dissemination of spores. We measured airborne and environmental C. difficile adjacent to patients with symptomatic C. difficile infection (CDI). METHODS. We conducted air sampling adjacent to 63 patients with CDI for 180 h in total and for 101 h in control settings. Environmental samples were obtained from surfaces adjacent to the patient and from communal areas of the ward. C. difficile isolates were characterized by ribotyping and multilocus variable-number tandem-repeat analysis to determine relatedness. RESULTS. Of the first 50 patients examined (each for 1 h), only 12% had positive air samples, most frequently those with active symptoms of CDI (10%, vs 2% for those with no symptoms). We intensively sampled the air around 10 patients with CDI symptoms, each for 10 h over 2 days, as well as a total of 346 surface sites. C. difficile was isolated from the air in the majority of these cases (7 of 10 patients tested) and from the surfaces around 9 of the patients; 60% of patients had both air and surface environments that were positive for C. difficile. Molecular characterization confirmed an epidemiological link between airborne dispersal, environmental contamination, and CDI cases. CONCLUSIONS. Aerosolization of C. difficile occurs commonly but sporadically in patients with symptomatic CDI. This may explain the widespread dissemination of epidemic strains. Our results emphasize the importance of single-room isolation as soon as possible after the onset of diarrhea to limit the dissemination of C. difficile.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I assume flushing the toilet could make it somewhat airborne .

also
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20415567/
BACKGROUND. The high transmissibility and widespread environmental contamination by Clostridium difficile suggests the possibility of airborne dissemination of spores. We measured airborne and environmental C. difficile adjacent to patients with symptomatic C. difficile infection (CDI). METHODS. We conducted air sampling adjacent to 63 patients with CDI for 180 h in total and for 101 h in control settings. Environmental samples were obtained from surfaces adjacent to the patient and from communal areas of the ward. C. difficile isolates were characterized by ribotyping and multilocus variable-number tandem-repeat analysis to determine relatedness. RESULTS. Of the first 50 patients examined (each for 1 h), only 12% had positive air samples, most frequently those with active symptoms of CDI (10%, vs 2% for those with no symptoms). We intensively sampled the air around 10 patients with CDI symptoms, each for 10 h over 2 days, as well as a total of 346 surface sites. C. difficile was isolated from the air in the majority of these cases (7 of 10 patients tested) and from the surfaces around 9 of the patients; 60% of patients had both air and surface environments that were positive for C. difficile. Molecular characterization confirmed an epidemiological link between airborne dispersal, environmental contamination, and CDI cases. CONCLUSIONS. Aerosolization of C. difficile occurs commonly but sporadically in patients with symptomatic CDI. This may explain the widespread dissemination of epidemic strains. Our results emphasize the importance of single-room isolation as soon as possible after the onset of diarrhea to limit the dissemination of C. difficile.

Hospitals and rehabs use contact precautions. Gown, gloves and booties.



https://www.cdc.gov/hai/pdfs/cdiff/cdiff_tagged-bw.pdf

[scho63]

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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Alcohol based cleaners don't kill the spores, so you must wash your hands. Bleach and peroxyacetic acid kill it. The antibiotics must likely to lead to C. diff are clindamycin, then fluoroquinolones. Treatment consists of oral vancomycin or fidaxomicin. Metronidazole is no longer used unless it is fulminant.

Have fun.