***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Rain Man]

I'm joining the booster club today. I'm still debating on left arm versus right arm. I got my first shot in the right and second in the left, so I'll probably go right again.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'm joining the booster club today. I'm still debating on left arm versus right arm. I got my first shot in the right and second in the left, so I'll probably go right again.

Do you sleep on your side? If so, choose the arm you don't rest on.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by TLO

Do you sleep on your side? If so, choose the arm you don't rest on.

What kind of pscyho sleeps on the same side every night?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by TLO

Do you sleep on your side? If so, choose the arm you don't rest on.

Originally Posted by wazu

What kind of pscyho sleeps on the same side every night?

Both of these are good points.

I've heard that it's healthier to sleep on your left side, but I like to mix it up.

[suzzer99]

I have to mix it up or one side gets sore. I flip flop about every 30 minutes I think.

[Vladimir_Kyrilytch]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I have to mix it up or one side gets sore. I flip flop about every 30 minutes I think.

That's what your mother said.

[Rain Man]

I'm back. I went left on the arm to keep the rotation going. This shot went in harder than the first two. I think she injected it with a drinking straw or something.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'm back. I went left on the arm to keep the rotation going. This shot went in harder than the first two. I think she injected it with a drinking straw or something.

I was the opposite. Had my jab on Monday or so and of all of them, the last one I didn't even feel. No pinch or pressure or anything. However of the 3 jabs, 24 hours later the 3rd one bugged me the most as in flu like symptoms. Not game changing but annoying. (Moderna)

[Rain Man]

It's been two hours since I got my booster and my fingers are in intense pain. I just accidentally shut my back door on them.

[Eureka]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

My mom had to take my stepdad to the hospital this morning. Running a 103 fever and labored breathing. Tested positive and he’s since been placed on BiPap and given Remdesivir and sent to the ICU.

If you’re the praying type, my family would appreciate one right about now.

Hope things get better for your stepdad!

I was listening to Dr Elizabeth Lee Vliet on the Michael Savage podcast and she spoke about this particular situation and Remdesivir.

Might be worth a listen for you. I listen through the podbean app.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Eureka

Hope things get better for your stepdad!

I was listening to Dr Elizabeth Lee Vliet on the Michael Savage podcast and she spoke about this particular situation and Remdesivir.

Might be worth a listen for you. I listen through the podbean app.

Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what he wants to listen to in these trying times.

**** you

[suzzer99]

I thought Michael Savage died of covid. I must have gotten him mixed up with one of those other AM radio hosts. So many it's hard to keep track.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The standard course of therapy for patients that require hospitalization and supplemental oxygen is remdesivir, dexamethasone, and either tocilizumab or baricitinib.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Eureka

Hope things get better for your stepdad!

I was listening to Dr Elizabeth Lee Vliet on the Michael Savage podcast and she spoke about this particular situation and Remdesivir.

Might be worth a listen for you. I listen through the podbean app.

I don't know. From what I read of that woman, she's not someone I'd be recommending at this time.

This particular quote of hers turns my stomach to be honest:

Now we see its malevolent manifestation in the “COVID Protocol.” Age-based rationing is happening every day on COVID units of our hospitals, since the overwhelming majority of COVID patients are older than 50, the age at which Emanuel claims that a life is “complete” and not worth the use of medical resources.

"Complete Lives System" and the "COVID Protocol" are pathways leading to suffering and premature death, mainly of older Americans. They achieve the government's goal of reducing Medicare costs. At the same time, hospitals make untold extra millions with extra incentive payments for COVID patients during their tortured path to death, while they are chemically and physically restrained and isolated from families, pastors, priests, and rabbis.

https://www.orlandomedicalnews.com/a...icas-hospitals

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Eureka

Hope things get better for your stepdad!

I was listening to Dr Elizabeth Lee Vliet on the Michael Savage podcast and she spoke about this particular situation and Remdesivir.

Might be worth a listen for you. I listen through the podbean app.

Did a quick search and found that this practitioner advocating for hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin due to the sham study by Raoult.