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Old 01-02-2022, 03:11 PM  
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This is how the NFL rigs games

The refs really showed out for the Bungles today.

**** the NFL.

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Old 01-02-2022, 08:34 PM   #466
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This one’s going to take awhile to get over. Incompetent officiating is one thing because both teams have to overcome it, but blatantly extending drives with horrible calls that benefit one team is infuriating as ****.
What it comes down too, and I am trying to give some kind of benefit of the doubt to the Refs here just for argument sake, Cinci was going to have to lose this game. The Refs were never going to let us beat them.

After that flag on the Pringle return which was tacky, late and didn't effect the play you kinda wondered. Then we get called for offsides when Burrow moves early. DPI calls for literally nothing. Horse collar that everyone watching the game live and on tv knew wasn't a horse collar. Etc., etc.

The Refs simply were not going to let us beat Cinci. They were going to leave it up to Cinci to beat themselves. And when Cinci did that at the end, they still bailed them out so.....
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Old 01-02-2022, 08:35 PM   #467
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Sooo...help me understand this.

There are certain officiating crews that the NFL uses to rig games and others who call games straight up?

I guess when we win, we got the legit crew and we pull the corrupt ones when we lose?

Is that accurate?
Yeah, let me know next time the other team gets flagged 3 times in the last minute and we get away with a blatant false start to win the game.
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Old 01-02-2022, 08:37 PM   #468
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Yeah, let me know next time the other team gets flagged 3 times in the last minute and we get away with a blatant false start to win the game.
Couldn't they just be really shitty refs?
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Old 01-02-2022, 08:37 PM   #469
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Correct. The league could fix the issues with officiating whenever they want.

Are we really naive enough to believe the League can’t see what we see?

The league could easily afford to make refs full time, station more refs around the field of play, have 2-3 booth refs reviewing plays in real time, implement more technology to help with the human element, etc.

They could do all of this any given season. They don’t.
And, if they were inclined to have some sort of balance in their game, they wouldn't continue to hamstring the defenses with more and more rules that fall under the heading of "player safety" while also seemingly having no issue with arbitrary standards for what constitutes a hold in the secondary as opposed to pass rushers. On the player safety side it's amazing how a RB can almost always deliver a blow to a defender's head, often times on the facemask, and it's all good. Add that leading with the the crown of his helmet is fine when a RB plows into a defender, but if the defense does it..."Crime of the century". In before "defenseless"....

But what gets lost in this minutia is where the officials get their power to influence outcomes of games. We can all agree that there's a hold on every play (see, I just said it), but it's when an official decides to "let them play" vs "a hold is a hold" - that's where their power is. Subjectivity... A kissing cousin to bias...

Next up, the rarely called push-off... If a WR uses his hands to create separation, that's a push off. But let's not quibble of details... In a league with an interest in games with lots of scoring, they're not going to make the offense's job any more difficult than they have to.

But it is what it is, and we'll all be back next week to reassure the WWFL that they can do anything they want and we won't go away.
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Old 01-02-2022, 08:40 PM   #470
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AGREED! People trashing the defense and Spags are annoying. They played the same game they have the last 8 games... this time they were playing the refs, and you can't cheat the executioner.
I think Spags if taking some shit because he continued to think going single coverage on Mr. #1 was the way to go. I'm just spit-balling here, but after he burned us as much as he did in the first half, I might have offered some help for the dude trying to cover him.
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Old 01-02-2022, 08:40 PM   #471
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Face mask on Mahomes not called
Wylie gets called for holding with a defender grabbing his face mask
Tyreek gets shoved down 10 yards down field and no call
Pringle TD return called back
DPI on Fenton for playing defense
DPI on Sneed for the WR running the wrong route and barely touching him
Horse collar on Sneed that wasn't a horse collar
False Start on Burrow that gets called off sides
False start on Cinci goes uncalled
Offsetting penalties when Cinci fails on 4th down
Hands to the face when Cinci fails on 4th down again

Yep, was just your average Ref crew calling a typical game .......
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Old 01-02-2022, 08:40 PM   #472
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Yea...it's pretty obvious that the game is rigged and has been for a long time. I still remember watching Tamba being damn near put in a choke hold multiple times a game, but somehow never getting the flag.
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how 'bout the holding call on Wylie while the defender literally has a handful of his face mask? I mean, what the hell was that?
Wait, wait, wait, I know why... "Because they didn't see it." Not that I believe that, but it's the excuse that they use to trump any complaint they hear.

Here's what I've come to learn (but I'm a young man!!!!) - WWFL officials call everything they see, but only see what they want.

Think about it, it answers your question...
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Couldn't they just be really shitty refs?
I would have settled for really shitty. This was beyond really shitty. This was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen from start to finish. It isn't like they made a bad call or two. It isn't like they made an egregiously bad call,

They made a ton of egregiously bad calls.
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Sooo...help me understand this.

There are certain officiating crews that the NFL uses to rig games and others who call games straight up?

I guess when we win, we got the legit crew and we pull the corrupt ones when we lose?

Is that accurate?
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One thing I'm curious about when thinking about the obvious rigging...I can see that it's rigged, a lot of other people not in the NFL can see that it's rigged. Players have come out and said that it's rigged, so with all of that I'm sure current players, coaches, gms and owners can see that it's rigged, SO are they in on it as well? I mean Andy has been coaching 20 something years...surely he knows, so is he just "playing ball" and going along with whatever? Like how far does the rigging go, do teams/coaches know who is going to win before the game even starts?
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Couldn't they just be really shitty refs?
If it was just shitty officiating we would’ve benefited at some point in the second half.
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I would have settled for really shitty. This was beyond really shitty. This was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen from start to finish. It isn't like they made a bad call or two. It isn't like they made an egregiously bad call,

They made a ton of egregiously bad calls.
I agree with you there. It was a horribly officiated game. One of the worst I've seen as well.

Still doesn't equate to rigged.

Again, score more than 3 points in the 2nd half and none of it matters.
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Maybe Hunt should tell him that he'll cover any fine...

That said, I think he's counting on the officials realizing that they owe us a few. They won't, but Coach is an optimistic person. Perhaps too optimistic..
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