This is how the NFL rigs games

[rabblerouser]

The refs really showed out for the Bungles today.

**** the NFL.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Couldn't they just be really shitty refs?

If I was that shitty at my job, I'd get ****ing fired.

Why do they get a pass? Is there no one else available?

They're all doctors and lawyers and shit. I guaran-****ing-tee they don't suck like that at THOSE jobs.

Why not expand the pool from which they choose? I reffed high school games and games at CMSU - can I apply?

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Patty Moans

We're lucky they didn't call pass interference on every play. There was holding by our corners that went uncalled. The refs didn't win that game we lost it and all the whining in the world won't change that. During the eight game winning streak we got away with a ton of penalties that weren't called. Pay respect to the winning team and play better.

We?

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by dolphinsneu

They ain't average. They are 3 plays away from having the top seed.

Average offensive talent with a young QB and great defensive coaching.

We saw that here all through the 90s.

[mkp785]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Except that several players have out and out said it's rigged/manipulated...and 99% of the time, questions about "how the NFL keeps it all a secret" are redundant because it's not a secret at all. Some people choose to believe that it is.

It's really that simple at this point.

.....and yet you still follow the team and watch the games. Spare everyone your hand wringing BS.

[dolphinsneu]

Originally Posted by mkp785

.....and yet you still follow the team and watch the games. Spare everyone your hand wringing BS.

Not like we have much choice. Unless you want to watch the bra and panties football league.

[vonBobo]

The bad news is we have seen good quarterbacks get the calls that take them deep into the playoffs every year. It's a reality I have watched over and over and over for decades.
The good news is that the Chiefs finally/still have that necessary golden ticket to the playoffs. The unfortunate part is only one golden ticket holder gets the big trophy every year.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by vonBobo

The bad news is we have seen good quarterbacks get the calls that take them deep into the playoffs every year. It's a reality I have watched over and over and over for decades.
The good news is that the Chiefs finally/still have that necessary golden ticket to the playoffs. The unfortunate part is only one golden ticket holder gets the big trophy every year.

I just want to see the best football players in the world compete against each other. I only want to see a penalty when it's a clear and egregious foul that affects the play. On the majority of those calls that went against the Chiefs today, they shouldn't have called a thing.

I felt the PI they called against the Bengals early in the game was weak too. Kelce was the intended target. There's a lot of little grabs and little hooks and little pushoffs that are just natural for a receiver or a defender.

I'm just tired of the NFL. Can't even enjoy a big play because I'm too busy looking for that flag to pop up.

[SuperBowl4]

First Down and a Billion A great book written by a former owner of a NFL team that every fan of this league should read.

[SuperBowl4]

Originally Posted by dolphinsneu

Not like we have much choice. Unless you want to watch the bra and panties football league.

You do realize that you are currently watching grown men wearing tight spandex pants running around tackling one another. Think about it.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Patty Moans

We're lucky they didn't call pass interference on every play. There was holding by our corners that went uncalled. The refs didn't win that game we lost it and all the whining in the world won't change that. During the eight game winning streak we got away with a ton of penalties that weren't called. Pay respect to the winning team and play better.

You're still pretending to be a KC fan?

[UK_Chief]

Some games just feel like “world football federation” games. The Chiefs have had a couple in their favour in the early Mahomes era IIRC, but lots more against them. Fortunately not every game is like that

[stevegroganfan]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

No, I don't remember all that. I remember jumping up on the Patriots and them being upset on the Henry being out of bounds, but whatever.

In the AFC title game against NE, we got JOBBED.

The Chris Jones phantom penalty for getting close to Brady, Kelce and Hill got mauled plenty, and that flag for offsides didn't come out until Brady threw the pick.

And yeah, Raiders are dirty and that should've been called. The refs are egregiously crooked.

The offside was an obvious call that even the announcers said had to be called. Tough to see when it was actually called by game footage since flag appears off the screen but I am assuming it was called quickly. Even most Chiefs fans have the common sense to blame Ford. Guy was 1 yard offsides and 1 yard there is just ridiculous. Now to be fair, the Chiefs one valid complaint may be Ford not be "warned" to get back on sides. If refs almost always do that, it sucks for the Chiefs for them to not do so in what turned out to be a big play.

Chris Jones appeared to be a bad call against the Chiefs but Edelman was held on that play anyways.

Chiefs committed more actual penalties but Patriots called for more.

Hill is simply too fast and even strong to be held much. Patriots contained Hill since they had a somewhat fast defensive back and they often doubled him. It wasn't one defensive back containing Hill by holding him, it was the double teams and some pressure on Mahomes that did it more than anything else.

There was an illegal pick play freeing up Sammy Watkins that setup a big Chiefs touchdown in the 2nd half of the game. Picks within 1 yard of line of scrimmage are legal but Chiefs did a pick well beyond 1 yard. Belichick was justifiably very upset after that play since it was a very egregious non call that easily could have won the game for KC.

While penalties/penalty yards often don't tell the story in that playoff game they were somewhat illustrative that the refs clearly were not favoring the Patriots.

Chiefs penalties that day 4-28 yards.
Patriots penalties 6 for 61 yards.

When Patriots held the Chiefs receivers that day and on a few plays they did, they were usually called for it.

Chiefs were often allowed to routinely hold Patriots receivers and they got away with it most of the time that day.

[dolphinsneu]

Originally Posted by stevegroganfan

The offside was an obvious call that even the announcers said had to be called. Tough to see when it was actually called by game footage since flag appears off the screen but I am assuming it was called quickly. Even most Chiefs fans have the common sense to blame Ford. Guy was 1 yard offsides and 1 yard there is just ridiculous. Now to be fair, the Chiefs one valid complaint may be Ford not be "warned" to get back on sides. If refs almost always do that, it sucks for the Chiefs for them to not do so in what turned out to be a big play.

Chris Jones appeared to be a bad call against the Chiefs but Edelman was held on that play anyways.

Chiefs committed more actual penalties but Patriots called for more.

Hill is simply too fast and even strong to be held much. Patriots contained Hill since they had a somewhat fast defensive back and they often doubled him. It wasn't one defensive back containing Hill by holding him, it was the double teams and some pressure on Mahomes that did it more than anything else.

There was an illegal pick play freeing up Sammy Watkins that setup a big Chiefs touchdown in the 2nd half of the game. Picks within 1 yard of line of scrimmage are legal but Chiefs did a pick well beyond 1 yard. Belichick was justifiably very upset after that play since it was a very egregious non call that easily could have won the game for KC.

While penalties/penalty yards often don't tell the story in that playoff game they were somewhat illustrative that the refs clearly were not favoring the Patriots.

Chiefs penalties that day 4-28 yards.
Patriots penalties 6 for 61 yards.

When Patriots held the Chiefs receivers that day and on a few plays they did, they were usually called for it.

Chiefs were often allowed to routinely hold Patriots receivers and they got away with it most of the time that day.

Everything you say is true. The irony is that on the pick play, the refs NOT calling may have WON the game for the PATRIOTS. If they had called it, it may have enabled to Chiefs to run more clock before scoring, leaving New England without a chance to respond,

Edelman was held on that play, but the ball may have been uncatchable since it was behind him

[ChiefaRoo]

Originally Posted by Donger

I get the "just let them score" idea, but has that ever happened before in an actual game?

It’s happened before..I believe the Donks
Or Pack did it in the SB or playoffs…don’t quite remember the exact game.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

and that flag for offsides didn't come out until Brady threw the pick.

I can say with 1,000,000% guarantee that this is not accurate. The flag came out immediately. I knew it was offsides or some neutral zone infraction and threw up my hands when they intercepted it as I was sure it wasn't going to stand.