Did Joe Mixon fumble on his last run??

[ku_jhawk23]

Originally Posted by HMc

He pretty obviously gave himself up. He got up, dumped the ball and started celebrating. If ever a runner has "given themselves up", it would have to be here. Not a fumble.

He was tripped up and fell to the ground, then jumped up assuming he'd been tackled. Where in the **** does giving himself up fall into that? Thinking you got tackled and then celebrating is not giving yourself up. Giving yourself up must be voluntary with no outside contact and in the normal field of play. That wasn't this. If he were touched by the Chiefs defender, it counts as down. That is unclear, which is why I said it wouldn't be overturned, but he DEFINITELY did not give himself up under any definition of the rule.

[HMc]

Originally Posted by ku_jhawk23

He was tripped up and fell to the ground, then jumped up assuming he'd been tackled. Where in the **** does giving himself up fall into that? Thinking you got tackled and then celebrating is not giving yourself up. Giving yourself up must be voluntary with no outside contact and in the normal field of play. That wasn't this. If he were touched by the Chiefs defender, it counts as down. That is unclear, which is why I said it wouldn't be overturned, but he DEFINITELY did not give himself up under any definition of the rule.

The official rulebook says none of what you think is included. Im not even sure of what the "normal field of play" would be, if this wasnt it.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...wn-by-contact/

An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended:

when a runner declares himself down by:
falling to the ground, or kneeling, and clearly making no immediate effort to advance.

He fell to the ground. He clearly made no immediate effort to advance, given he got up and tossed the ball in order to celebrate.

He was on the ground. He was either down by contact, or he was down by virtue of his "clearly making no immediate effort to advance."

Either way, he was down.

[emaw1979]

Originally Posted by HMc

The official rulebook says none of what you think is included. Im not even sure of what the "normal field of play" would be, if this wasnt it.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...wn-by-contact/

An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended:

when a runner declares himself down by:
falling to the ground, or kneeling, and clearly making no immediate effort to advance.

He fell to the ground. He clearly made no immediate effort to advance, given he got up and tossed the ball in order to celebrate.

He was on the ground. He was either down by contact, or he was down by virtue of his "clearly making no immediate effort to advance."

Either way, he was down.

Any other game outside of the playoffs that's a fumble. I have no problem with them not calling it a fumble because they have been trying not to make controversial calls during the postseason.

That was plaxico burress 2.0 level fumble.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by HMc

The official rulebook says none of what you think is included. Im not even sure of what the "normal field of play" would be, if this wasnt it.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...wn-by-contact/

An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended:

when a runner declares himself down by:
falling to the ground, or kneeling, and clearly making no immediate effort to advance.

He fell to the ground. He clearly made no immediate effort to advance, given he got up and tossed the ball in order to celebrate.

He was on the ground. He was either down by contact, or he was down by virtue of his "clearly making no immediate effort to advance."

Either way, he was down.

Well, if you're going to bring the rulebook into it, that changes the whole discussion. Now I have to find something else to complain about.

I do think that rule must have changed at some point, though. I recall past plays where that was ruled a fumble.