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Old 01-30-2022, 05:12 PM  
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Mahomes lost this one 5 ways

Too many mistakes by the reaper dammit.
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Old 01-31-2022, 08:51 AM   #226
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How do five guys not block three guys?

ALL three got the QB.
all three broke through at the exact same time too but the o line all has their back turned and probably thought the ball was gone by then.
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Old 01-31-2022, 08:55 AM   #227
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all three broke through at the exact same time too but the o line all has their back turned and probably thought the ball was gone by then.
Yeah that wasn’t because our OL couldn’t block them. Our OL just didn’t block them.

Makes me think Mahomes ****ed that one up. All 5 OL had the exact same thought, whatever it was.
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Old 01-31-2022, 08:55 AM   #228
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lots of fans are reporting that the sideline mood was totally changed when they came out after halftime. Once banter was commonplace, players weren’t even talking. Several were sulking by themselves.

There were several seemingly negative exchanges between players that usually never do anything like that. We know of the Mahomes/EB and Hill/Hardman exchanges. But sounds like there was more.

Something happen in the locker room? We will probably never know.

Wonder if Gblowfish saw stuff like this too?
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Old 01-31-2022, 09:02 AM   #229
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Average sack on Mahomes was 8.95 seconds. That's a lot of indecision and WR's not being able to get open.
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Old 01-31-2022, 09:04 AM   #230
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Yeah that wasn’t because our OL couldn’t block them. Our OL just didn’t block them.

Makes me think Mahomes ****ed that one up. All 5 OL had the exact same thought, whatever it was.
the OLINE was doing so well at the start of the game I said there is no way the Bengals can win with no pressure so they must have decided that since they can't get pressure on PM they will take away his targets. Pretty brilliant to when a team can take away the middle from Hill
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Old 01-31-2022, 09:07 AM   #231
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Average sack on Mahomes was 8.95 seconds. That's a lot of indecision and WR's not being able to get open.
The Bengals dropping 8 into coverage will do that.

Andy has called grind it out, run the ball drives in the playoffs before when teams dared him to do it.

For some reason, he didn't pull the trigger yesterday.
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Old 01-31-2022, 09:09 AM   #232
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The Bengals dropping 8 into coverage will do that.

Andy has called grind it out, run the ball drives in the playoffs before when teams dared him to do it.

For some reason, he didn't pull the trigger yesterday.
Running the ball was so obvious. How does a coach of Andy's pedigree not understand that?
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Old 01-31-2022, 09:12 AM   #233
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I'm actually not as mad or as upset as I would have been in the past

Hot take but I think he needed a choke job like this at home, I think he doesn't have a second half like this again. I think he comes back from this even better and it gives the whole offense a huge chip on their shoulder for next year
Yeah.

I left that game completely serene.

You play that poorly for a half+ in a conference championship game, you don't deserve to advance. The game wasn't taken from us. We didn't get screwed by officials. We didn't make mistakes in roster construction. We didn't even lose to a better team.

The best, most critical player on the team (possibly in the NFL), played like microwaved dog shit for the last 7ish drives of that game and so we lost.

That's an L well earned. And it's one that's going to follow Mahomes and Reid for a very long time. And yeah - it should. For an entire half of football our Golden Boy played like Matt Cassel and so we lost.

Not sure what else there is to say about it or what else there is to take from it. Mahomes is mortal and finally demonstrated as such.

It just is what it is. So now I'll decompress for awhile, stick my head up come draft season, see what we do to deal with the pressing issues on the roster through the coming months and be ready come August. And in the back of my mind I'll even be hand-waiving regular season results because we're at the 'who gives a shit?' stage of the game.

In a lot of ways this result is pretty easy to take. It's obvious what happened. What happened was rare. It's also capable of repetition, if unlikely. Frankly it was amazing he hadn't laid an egg in the post-season yet.

So...moving on.
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Old 01-31-2022, 09:15 AM   #234
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Yeah.

I left that game completely serene.

You play that poorly for a half+ in a conference championship game, you don't deserve to advance. The game wasn't taken from us. We didn't get screwed by officials. We didn't make mistakes in roster construction. We didn't even lose to a better team.

The best, most critical player on the team (possibly in the NFL), played like microwaved dog shit for the last 7ish drives of that game and so we lost.

That's an L well earned. And it's one that's going to follow Mahomes and Reid for a very long time. And yeah - it should. For an entire half of football our Golden Boy played like Matt Cassel and so we lost.

Not sure what else there is to say about it or what else there is to take from it. Mahomes is mortal and finally demonstrated as such.

It just is what it is. So now I'll decompress for awhile, stick my head up come draft season, see what we do to deal with the pressing issues on the roster through the coming months and be ready come August. And in the back of my mind I'll even be hand-waiving regular season results because we're at the 'who gives a shit?' stage of the game.

In a lot of ways this result is pretty easy to take. It's obvious what happened. What happened was rare. It's also capable of repetition, if unlikely. Frankly it was amazing he hadn't laid an egg in the post-season yet.

So...moving on.
We really should re-name this the 'Moving On Lounge'. Mods?
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Old 01-31-2022, 09:15 AM   #235
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Average sack on Mahomes was 8.95 seconds. That's a lot of indecision and WR's not being able to get open.
That's an eternity back there... just chuck the ball 20 yards on a rainbow to the sidelines.
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He'll be fine. There are many lessons here to be learned, and I have faith he will take them to heart.

Like audible to a ****ing run when they're dropping 8 every play.

Use the full offense, not just Tyreek and Kelce no matter what.
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Old 01-31-2022, 09:18 AM   #237
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Yeah.

I left that game completely serene.

You play that poorly for a half+ in a conference championship game, you don't deserve to advance. The game wasn't taken from us. We didn't get screwed by officials. We didn't make mistakes in roster construction. We didn't even lose to a better team.

The best, most critical player on the team (possibly in the NFL), played like microwaved dog shit for the last 7ish drives of that game and so we lost.

That's an L well earned. And it's one that's going to follow Mahomes and Reid for a very long time. And yeah - it should. For an entire half of football our Golden Boy played like Matt Cassel and so we lost.

Not sure what else there is to say about it or what else there is to take from it. Mahomes is mortal and finally demonstrated as such.

It just is what it is. So now I'll decompress for awhile, stick my head up come draft season, see what we do to deal with the pressing issues on the roster through the coming months and be ready come August. And in the back of my mind I'll even be hand-waiving regular season results because we're at the 'who gives a shit?' stage of the game.

In a lot of ways this result is pretty easy to take. It's obvious what happened. What happened was rare. It's also capable of repetition, if unlikely. Frankly it was amazing he hadn't laid an egg in the post-season yet.

So...moving on.
I hate, hate, hate to admit this as someone who loves Patrick as much as I do, but I hope it's a learning experience for Andy, too. It's one thing to tell Patrick to keep firing when we're down 8 with our backs against the wall in the 4th quarter. But when we have a lead and Patrick is off, we need to be able to counter with the run when teams are leaving it open for us to do so.

We've seen Bill Belichick take the ball out of Tom Brady's hands countless times when Brady wasn't feeling it in major in-game situations. Hell, we lost multiple playoff games because of that. We saw Tony Dungy do the same with Peyton Manning. We even saw Andy do this in the 2019 AFC Championship Game.

When a team is giving us the run when we have the lead, sometimes, the best move might be to take it.
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Old 01-31-2022, 09:20 AM   #238
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He'll be fine. There are many lessons here to be learned, and I have faith he will take them to heart.

Like audible to a ****ing run when they're dropping 8 every play.

Use the full offense, not just Tyreek and Kelce no matter what.
I hate to say this but I think Patrick and Andy are too prideful. They both want the ball in the air too much.

And dumbasses on this board piled on anyone saying to run the ball more.

These guys drafted a first rd RB and then didn’t even use him. Talk about a wasted pick
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Yup - probably needed to shut him down there. Like I said, Mahomes and Reid will wear this one and they should.

The thing is that there's just no explanation for it. Nothing happened. He shouldn't have been pressing. He shouldn't have been skittish. He wasn't getting blasted and the OL was holding up well. He had guys open but he was coming off them too soon. He was just bad. And there was no explanation for it.

So why torture yourself trying to find a solution to a problem that doesn't have a cause?
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lots of fans are reporting that the sideline mood was totally changed when they came out after halftime. Once banter was commonplace, players weren’t even talking. Several were sulking by themselves.

There were several seemingly negative exchanges between players that usually never do anything like that. We know of the Mahomes/EB and Hill/Hardman exchanges. But sounds like there was more.

Something happen in the locker room? We will probably never know.

Wonder if Gblowfish saw stuff like this too?
It wasn't an argument or anything like that. Just a small interaction. EB while looking at his iPad says something to Mahomes like "you can't do that", Mahomes looks like he says "I got you" and turns his head away from EB . But when he turned his head his facial mannerisms point towards something other going on there.

Don't overblow what I am saying , it was a minor incident that was very small and quick. But it was very telling from my perspective.
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