Brian Flores suing the NFL

[Sassy Squatch]

Oh wow, Brian Flores suing the NFL and NY Giants, alleging racism in hiring. Includes private texts from Bill Belichick https://t.co/4FVAlelLQU

— Alex Weprin (@alexweprin) February 1, 2022

Flores' suit includes texts from Bill Belichick that appear to show him congratulating him on getting the Giants job, mistakenly believing he was texting Brian Daboll. This was before Flores' interview with the Giants took place.

— Alex Weprin (@alexweprin) February 1, 2022

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

Throw the ball out of the endzone, no name calling needed

Umm what?

How about throw the ball to an open Hardman on 2nd & goal, or an open Kelce on 3rd & goal?

[Rainbarrel]

The end of the half was the end of the game for some reason. Missed FG opportunity, fall apart

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

And Hue Jackson - the Browns are an NFL team, too.

Yes. Same exact thing. The individual team was throwing games to get a higher draft pick to try and have an advantage.


Where does this prove that the "NFL" is commanding the teams do this? I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying you don't have the proof to your claims that games are rigged from the top down.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by staylor26

We could always stop going to AFCCGs, then maybe you ungrateful ****s wouldn’t have to complain about losing half of them.

If the shit's not on the up and up (and it isn't) then who gives a shit?

They allowed us to play in 2 and ALLOWED us to win 1 (by not calling the hold on WASP)

Great.

[Shields68]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

He is complaining about racism in the hiring process when there is no evidence to support it other than he didn't enjoy being a Rooney Rule interview.

His lawsuit is really a nice bit of fiction and written with quotes of Dr King and even how Kap was allegedly discriminated against. It is 99% written for sensationalism.

It was nice even how they tied the firing into racism, fired for refusing to lose and break NFL rules but racist in that the Dolphins portrayed him as a angry black man a racial stereotype in why he was fired.

The 1 % really comes down to whether a person believes that if 70% of the NFL players are black that the same % of coaches need to be as well or whether the % should be more along the lines of the population or those that played college or follow football intently.

Looks like a strongarm tactic to get the NFL to concede to more drastic measures of promoting a black owner (Broncos are for sale) putting in place a black committee for openings that will have a say in hiring. Sure the woke NFL is willing to woke concede to some... should be interesting.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

The NFL is not legit. The truth is coming out. Hue must be super rich.

WHY DOES IT SUPRISE YOU THAT TEAMS ARE TRYING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO LOSE GAMES?

It is directly tied to their draft pick capital.

OF COURSE - they are going to try to lose games. When the Chiefs were eliminated from the playoffs in prior years I would get pissed at any game they won because it meant we dropped one more spot down in the draft, and one more spot less likely to draft a franchise QB.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Glad we can at least agree that it’s not racism.

If EB isn’t getting hired bc of optics due to his past, then other white coaches shouldn’t be hired in similar situations.

Especially in todays political climate

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel

The end of the half was the end of the game for some reason. Missed FG opportunity, fall apart

Patrick was told to throw the ball in the end zone or throw it away.

Again, how is that on Andy?

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

Yes. Same exact thing. The individual team was throwing games to get a higher draft pick to try and have an advantage.


Where does this prove that the "NFL" is commanding the teams do this? I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying you don't have the proof to your claims that games are rigged from the top down.

There will never be "proof" that NFL does any of that.

There's no "proof" that the NFL fixed Jon Gruden's only SB win...but they did

Players on both sides, including the game MVP and a Hall of Famer, have outlined exactly how that game was not decided on the field of play.

Now, did the NFL instruct Bill Callahan and Jon Gruden on exactly how to collude and make that happen?

You tell me.

You do your own research.

I guarantee that they didn't do it on their own, like, of their own volition.

[Rainbarrel]

Lack of discipline

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Patrick was told to throw the ball in the end zone or throw it away.

Again, how is that on Andy?

For calling a play with a route that isn't in the end zone?

****, do we KNOW that's actually what happened, or is that the story they went with after the fact?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by staylor26

What? Then what the **** are you arguing here?

If you don’t think it’s racism, then why is it so hard for you to see the current trend of QB coaches and understand that most QBs and QB coaches are white?

Less than half of coaches hired since 2020 came from qb coaching. There has been just as much a trend toward power running and defense. It’s why guys like Arthur smith and Campbell were hired. We’ve seen plenty of defensive guys, special teams and TEs background coaches move up the ranks. Black coaches who are well represented in these areas are not getting nearly as many opportunities either.

Again, we’re not talking about 50/50 representation. We’re talking 1/32 on a predominantly black demographic league. You think that’s entirely explained a way by white qbs? I get that the reason behind this is complex and not as sinister as some make it to be. But how can anyone dispute that something feels very off about that?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

If EB isn’t getting hired bc of optics due to his past, then other white coaches shouldn’t be hired in similar situations.

Especially in todays political climate

I’ve already explained that there are reasons beyond his past that he hasn’t been hired. I’m not repeating myself further.

Again, if it’s simply racism, why didn’t Poles take him to Chicago with him? Why didn’t he get an interview with Kwesi and the Vikings?

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

There will never be "proof" that NFL does any of that.

There's no "proof" that the NFL fixed Jon Gruden's only SB win...but they did

Players on both sides, including the game MVP and a Hall of Famer, have outlined exactly how that game was not decided on the field of play.

Now, did the NFL instruct Bill Callahan and Jon Gruden on exactly how to collude and make that happen?

You tell me.

You do your own research.

I guarantee that they didn't do it on their own, like, of their own volition.

At this point I don't know who is the bigger rerun. You or all of us for arguing with you.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Shields68

His lawsuit is really a nice bit of fiction and written with quotes of Dr King and even how Kap was allegedly discriminated against. It is 99% written for sensationalism.

It was nice even how they tied the firing into racism, fired for refusing to lose and break NFL rules but racist in that the Dolphins portrayed him as a angry black man a racial stereotype in why he was fired.

The 1 % really comes down to whether a person believes that if 70% of the NFL players are black that the same % of coaches need to be as well or whether the % should be more along the lines of the population or those that played college or follow football intently.

Looks like a strongarm tactic to get the NFL to concede to more drastic measures of promoting a black owner (Broncos are for sale) putting in place a black committee for openings that will have a say in hiring. Sure the woke NFL is willing to woke concede to some... should be interesting.

That is the extreme end. The more reasonable end is recognizing that 1/32 is stunningly low given the demographics.