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Old 02-01-2022, 02:58 PM  
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Old 02-03-2022, 07:50 AM   #931
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Uh, it doesn't work that way. 11% of the coaching staff is white nepotism hires, and 2% are non-white nepotism hires. You're really forcing yourself to interpret something that's pretty obvious.
You said in your post whites make up 78% of the nepotism hires. Leaving 22% of the nepotism hires unaccounted for. Does not appear nepotism is causing the problem.
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Old 02-03-2022, 08:09 AM   #932
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Why do people keep bringing this point up about Asians and Hispanics. They each make up about 2% of players. When black people represent 70% of the guys you’re managing and yet only 3% of coaches, it’s obvious something is wrong. This is a huge talent pool that includes tons of guys who know the game in a unique way, has demonstrated leadership, and would connect well with the locker room. You don’t enforce quotas but you can use the percentages to know something is off. And it’s not just off. It’s embarrassingly off. So they’re not hiring the best people. In many cases the nfl is such an inbred network that they’re hiring people they know. Unless you’re suggesting that Britt Reid was more qualified to get a shot than a captain who played 4 years in a pro style defense.

You’re overcomplicating so blatantly obvious and simple. Black people represent 70% of players and yet only 3% of their “managers.”
Does being a nfl player correlate to being a above average coach is the question. Some of the best in the game have had no NFL experience. Bill, Andy, McVay, Shanihan.... to me if there is a correlation it is a love game, and figure out a way into coaching. Learning to dissect plays.

Further it is nice if a organization wants to help minorities. Give them a leg up, if they have an issue. But without an issue it becomes reverse discrimination.
The Rooney rule is meant to address this by giving minority candidates valuable interviews. The modification again was meant to as well. Sort of wonder if the latest modification on hiring a minority Head Coaces has back fired. Close call between two coaches and hiring the black coach gives the competition a good draft pick. Who ever thought of that is on drugs. You also need to be aware that not 3 years ago there were 7 black coaches. Maybe there is a natural eb and flow of the ethnicity of coaches.
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Old 02-03-2022, 08:22 AM   #933
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Are you pretending that they don’t have a black GM that is making that decision again?

JFC for somebody claiming they aren’t arguing that it’s racism you sure do come off like whiny bitch making everything about race.
You do realize the basic claim being made is that these black GM's are basically powerless tokens right?
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Old 02-03-2022, 08:27 AM   #934
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I hate to deliver bad news, but Elway is likely done in Denver anyway. His contract ends in April and I'd be surprised if a new ownership group gave him a new one.
Maybe Faiders or Doltz will be interested in horseface.
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Old 02-03-2022, 08:28 AM   #935
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Does being a nfl player correlate to being a above average coach is the question. Some of the best in the game have had no NFL experience. Bill, Andy, McVay, Shanihan.... to me if there is a correlation it is a love game, and figure out a way into coaching. Learning to dissect plays.

Further it is nice if a organization wants to help minorities. Give them a leg up, if they have an issue. But without an issue it becomes reverse discrimination.
The Rooney rule is meant to address this by giving minority candidates valuable interviews. The modification again was meant to as well. Sort of wonder if the latest modification on hiring a minority Head Coaces has back fired. Close call between two coaches and hiring the black coach gives the competition a good draft pick. Who ever thought of that is on drugs. You also need to be aware that not 3 years ago there were 7 black coaches. Maybe there is a natural eb and flow of the ethnicity of coaches.
I actually think the new Rooney rule, even though it feels shadier, is working for GMs at least. Teams aren’t hiring black GMs because they have to. They’re doing it because they want to. I think what you’re seeing is that teams are trying harder to make their minority candidates more visible and putting them in prominent roles and they’re proving that they’re succeeding.

Similarly, you’re seeing that with coaching. We’re not seeing that with head coaching yet, but we are seeing that with assistant coaches. A lot of the new coordinator hires this year were black. And in the playoffs this year, we saw a ton of black coordinators. You’d have to think that’s the same deal where teams are trying harder to develop the hell out of their black talent. So maybe this problem starts to solve itself. But it’s clear from the lack of candidates between 40-50 that this was not being done. Seems common sense but it’s a shame it took incentives to make it happen.
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“In January, NFL Network’s Jim Trotter said that a team owner told him that if Black people have such a concern over the lack of representation among the league’s head coaches, “they should go buy their own team and hire who they want to hire.”
Haven't any of these black people considered simply becoming billionaires?
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Old 02-03-2022, 08:43 AM   #937
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Flores is a shit coach, and all the law suits in the world won't change that fact.
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Old 02-03-2022, 08:49 AM   #938
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Haven't any of these black people considered simply becoming billionaires?
I wouldn't be surprised if the Broncos don't end up with some type of minority investment group owning them after all of this.

BTW there are a few minority owners in the NFL, they just aren't the right type of minority.
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Flores is a shit coach, and all the law suits in the world won't change that fact.
He is not a shit coach and he is totally right.
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Flores is a shit coach, and all the law suits in the world won't change that fact.
Only positive to these threads is we are finding out who has no clue about the NFL and sports in general.

Give you 10 guesses to figure out where you and rabble belong.
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Does being a nfl player correlate to being a above average coach is the question. Some of the best in the game have had no NFL experience. Bill, Andy, McVay, Shanihan.... to me if there is a correlation it is a love game, and figure out a way into coaching. Learning to dissect plays.

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Another question might be, "To what lengths will any industry go to ensure the make-up its workforce represent the local or national racial percentages?"

If we're going to focus on numbers and not be blind to color, it sure seems like any number of industries have a lot of work to do in order ditch their merit based systems and to get their percentages right.
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. When black people represent 70% of the guys you’re managing and yet only 3% of coaches, it’s obvious something is wrong.
ya, I agree, 70% is racist as hell.
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Only positive to these threads is we are finding out who has no clue about the NFL and sports in general.

Give you 10 guesses to figure out where you and rabble belong.
He's a shit coach with a losing record that would be much worse except for Fitz Magic. Pretending otherwise is disingenuous BS.
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You do realize the basic claim being made is that these black GM's are basically powerless tokens right?
Not just that, even when we brought up Poles demanding control of the coaching hire and reportedly getting it, they STILL believe that to be the case

It’s actually pretty ****ing insulting.
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He's a shit coach with a losing record that would be much worse except for Fitz Magic. Pretending otherwise is disingenuous BS.
He's a game under .500 for his time in Miami.

9-11 with Fitz starting, 15-11 with Tua/Brissett.

At least do your research first.
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