Who's the ONE guy that you just want in this draft? - Page 2

Chris Meck · 02-21-2022, 06:35 PM

Not like in the first round necessarily, just like...the guy you want.

For me, It's Rachaad White. The more I watch, the more I just think this kid is a perfect fit for KC, and could be had with our Poole pick most likely.

Direckshun · 02-22-2022, 08:36 AM

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Jameson Williams

I'd prefer the Chiefs to go DE with their first pick...

...but this guy.

kccrow · 02-22-2022, 08:36 AM

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J Williams.

But the draft is deep at WR, DE, and DB so I think we'll all end up pretty happy this year!

Plenty of flexibility in the offseason too, and quality targets at positions of need.

Primary Prediction: Chiefs will be better in the next 2 years than we were the previous 2.

Yeah that's the thing for me is really trying to pinpoint an absolute "one." I just think Sam Williams is going to develop into an absolute stud DE based on his ability to rush and develop his game but I also really want a couple of other guys. If the pundits are right about his draft slotting because of what happened with his arrest last year, then he should be there at our 2nd rounder.

I could come up with a laundry list like WR Doubs, DE Thomas, LB Clark, CB Gordon, etc that I'd be equally thrilled with.

htismaqe · 02-22-2022, 08:43 AM

If there's one guy I don't want, it's Williams. I don't get the infatuation with spending a 1st round pick on a guy that won't be able to contribute right away, considering this team is in a closing window.

Direckshun · 02-22-2022, 09:00 AM

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If there's one guy I don't want, it's Williams. I don't get the infatuation with spending a 1st round pick on a guy that won't be able to contribute right away, considering this team is in a closing window.

The team's window is open for the next dozen years, courtesy of Mahomes.

htismaqe · 02-22-2022, 09:01 AM

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The team's window is open for the next dozen years, courtesy of Mahomes.

They have Hill and Kelce right now. We need to get better value out of our 1st round pick than a guy that will basically redshirt in year 1.

Direckshun · 02-22-2022, 09:38 AM

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They have Hill and Kelce right now. We need to get better value out of our 1st round pick than a guy that will basically redshirt in year 1.

I think if you keep the roster treading water offensively, but beef up that defensive line to the same degree you beefed up the OL in 2021, the Chiefs aer Super Bowl champions.

Williams is an investment to take any conceivable lid off the offense in 2023. And he'll make plays the second half of 2022.

**The Franchise** · 02-22-2022, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I think if you keep the roster treading water offensively, but beef up that defensive line to the same degree you beefed up the OL in 2021, the Chiefs aer Super Bowl champions.

Williams is an investment to take any conceivable lid off the offense in 2023. And he'll make plays the second half of 2022.

And it's more than likely going to cost you a piece of this defense next season.

htismaqe · 02-22-2022, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I think if you keep the roster treading water offensively, but beef up that defensive line to the same degree you beefed up the OL in 2021, the Chiefs aer Super Bowl champions.

Williams is an investment to take any conceivable lid off the offense in 2023. And he'll make plays the second half of 2022.

You can upgrade the WR position without wasting picks.

There's no reason to use a 1st round pick like this. It's ludicrous.

**The Franchise** · 02-22-2022, 09:53 AM

htismaqe has already made the point multiple times in other threads. If Williams checks out medically.....then he won't be there at #30.

htismaqe · 02-22-2022, 09:57 AM

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htismaqe has already made the point multiple times in other threads. If Williams checks out medically.....then he won't be there at #30.

Exactly.

The only way he makes it to 30 is if the rest of the NFL believes he's compromised in some way. If he's truly a top 15 talent then the injury won't stop somebody from taking him before us. He's either healthy or he's not.

There's no scenario where taking Williams is a good idea.

Direckshun · 02-22-2022, 10:08 AM

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And it's more than likely going to cost you a piece of this defense next season.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

You can upgrade the WR position without wasting picks.

There's no reason to use a 1st round pick like this. It's ludicrous.

I'm in a weird limbo on this issue because I'm on record preferring a defensive player.

I think there's two ways the Chiefs make and win the Super Bowl in 2022: the safest, surest way is by beefing up the defense, specifically the defensive line. The other way is by making the offense bulletproof: you get yourself a top tier WR and a stud RB and never punt again.

Like the pick or not, Williams would be 1/2 of the latter's equation.

**The Franchise** · 02-22-2022, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I'm in a weird limbo on this issue because I'm on record preferring a defensive player.

I think there's two ways the Chiefs make and win the Super Bowl in 2022: the safest, surest way is by beefing up the defense, specifically the defensive line. The other way is by making the offense bulletproof: you get yourself a top tier WR and a stud RB and never punt again.

Like the pick or not, Williams would be 1/2 of the latter's equation.

Here's my issue with the second part.

If you make this offense bulletproof at the cost of building a defense, then when the offense fails (and it's shown that it can)....this team is ****ed.

If you build up a defense that's above average....then when the offense fails....you have a better chance of winning.

Now that doesn't mean that you sacrifice the offense completely but you also don't need to spend a bunch of high picks to stack this offense when there are only so many targets to go around.

htismaqe · 02-22-2022, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I'm in a weird limbo on this issue because I'm on record preferring a defensive player.

I think there's two ways the Chiefs make and win the Super Bowl in 2022: the safest, surest way is by beefing up the defense, specifically the defensive line. The other way is by making the offense bulletproof: you get yourself a top tier WR and a stud RB and never punt again.

Like the pick or not, Williams would be 1/2 of the latter's equation.

Except it wouldn't. At BEST, he's going to miss the entire offseason program, knowing that rookie WR's struggle to integrate into Andy's offense anyway. At worst, he's not physically ready to play until 2023.

Drafting Williams does NOTHING for 2022.

**The Franchise** · 02-22-2022, 10:18 AM

This offense doesn't need a FA WR and a first round pick at WR to be great next season. It needs a more capable #2 and maybe a depth WR that can help after 2022.

This defense needs drastic help at DE, a starter and depth at DT and help in the secondary badly.

htismaqe · 02-22-2022, 10:20 AM

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This offense doesn't need a FA WR and a first round pick at WR to be great next season. It needs a more capable #2 and maybe a depth WR that can help after 2022.

This defense needs drastic help at DE, a starter and depth at DT and help in the secondary badly.

Exactly.

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02-22-2022, 10:18 AM	#29
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	This offense doesn't need a FA WR and a first round pick at WR to be great next season. It needs a more capable #2 and maybe a depth WR that can help after 2022. This defense needs drastic help at DE, a starter and depth at DT and help in the secondary badly.
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