The MLB lockout thread

[Ocotillo]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Clearly the actions of those who wanted the season to start on time. The owners will undoubtedly start seriously shifting their positions in a few months but not before then.

Yes, technically the owners could have kept business as usual.

If anyone has been following this, both parties had adversarial talks for the shortened pandemic 2020 season. Since spring 2021, they've made no progress in talks for this CBA up until Dec. 1, 2021.

There's no way the owners and MLBPA would have made any head way on a new deal without the pressure of a lockout or a deadline.

If they chose the business as usual route, a strike could have happened in August and been a repeat of 1994.

I would rather get this dark cloud of that way first so we can have five years of labor peace. There's still a chance they get something done and we get a respectable 154-game, 142-game season.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Ocotillo

Yes, technically the owners could have kept business as usual.

If anyone has been following this, both parties had adversarial talks for the shortened pandemic 2020 season. Since spring 2021, they've made no progress in talks for this CBA up until Dec. 1, 2021.

There's no way the owners and MLBPA would have made any head way on a new deal without the pressure of a lockout or a deadline.

If they chose the business as usual route, a strike could have happened in August and been a repeat of 1994.

I would rather get this dark cloud of that way first so we can have five years of labor peace. There's still a chance they get something done and we get a respectable 154-game, 142-game season.

I’m thinking it will be closer to a 80 or 100 game season given how adversarial both sides are, but I’d be surprised if this goes on all year. Owners won’t give up that playoff revenue at the end if they can help it (and they certainly can help it).

The Jays project as one of the best teams in the league this year, so it would also be nice to get something in for that reason too.

[Ocotillo]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I’m thinking it will be closer to a 80 or 100 game season given how adversarial both sides are, but I’d be surprised if this goes on all year. Owners won’t give up that playoff revenue at the end if they can help it (and they certainly can help it).

The Jays project as one of the best teams in the league this year, so it would also be nice to get something in for that reason too.

I totally agree that 80-100 games is likely. My post about 144, 152 games is wishful thinking, being an optimist.

I feel like the shutdown the entire season issue -- five-year free agency -- is off the table, so I don't see a 2004-05 NHL scenario either.

It's just sad that we have a fun, young core of players like Juan Soto, Vladimir Guerrero Jr., Fernando Tatis Jr., Ronald Acuna that are going to have two of their prime years be potentially the two shortest seasons in baseball history. Good luck evaluating their Hall of Fame resumes in 20 years.

With the shortened season, it puts pressure on the Jays to perform because losing skids, slumps are devastating in an abbreviated season. They also play in a division where the Rays, Yankees and Red Sox are all capable of playing at a high level.