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Old 03-04-2022, 12:49 PM   #1
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Keep doubting Mecole ****ing Hardman.
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Old 03-04-2022, 12:56 PM   #2
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Hardman can beat out Amari Cooper.



Hardman is going make it difficult for coaches in battle for the #2 spot to decide. Just because they bring in a guy I think will push Hardman. It's also contract year up for him. He has a lot to prove but even if he isn't #2 he is a weapon any time he gets the ball in open space he gone!
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Old 03-04-2022, 01:08 PM   #3
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Hardman can beat out Amari Cooper.



Hardman is going make it difficult for coaches in battle for the #2 spot to decide. Just because they bring in a guy I think will push Hardman. It's also contract year up for him. He has a lot to prove but even if he isn't #2 he is a weapon any time he gets the ball in open space he gone!
How on earth do you come to that conclusion?

Mecole is a horrible route runner
Cooper is an elite route runner

Mecole runs out of bounds as soon as he can
Cooper is fearless

I could go on and on….the only thing Mecole has over Cooper is speed. That’s it.

I’m on record right now saying I think Veach will go hard trying to get deals done for Hill AND Cooper and will still go and draft another WR in the first 4 picks. It’s time to build an unstoppable offense and build the defense through the draft.

Veach protected his golden boy last offseason, now he’s going to give him weapons so when he has time to throw (which is often) the WRs will get open.

Cooper is PERFECT for WR2. Cost be dammed.
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Old 03-04-2022, 04:20 PM   #4
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How on earth do you come to that conclusion?

Mecole is a horrible route runner
Cooper is an elite route runner

Mecole runs out of bounds as soon as he can
Cooper is fearless

I could go on and on….the only thing Mecole has over Cooper is speed. That’s it.
Because it takes a zillion years for a WR to learn Andy's offense?

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How on earth do you come to that conclusion?

Mecole is a horrible route runner
Cooper is an elite route runner

Mecole runs out of bounds as soon as he can
Cooper is fearless

I could go on and on….the only thing Mecole has over Cooper is speed. That’s it.

I’m on record right now saying I think Veach will go hard trying to get deals done for Hill AND Cooper and will still go and draft another WR in the first 4 picks. It’s time to build an unstoppable offense and build the defense through the draft.

Veach protected his golden boy last offseason, now he’s going to give him weapons so when he has time to throw (which is often) the WRs will get open.

Cooper is PERFECT for WR2. Cost be dammed.

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Old 03-04-2022, 01:31 PM   #6
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Hardman can beat out Amari Cooper.



Hardman is going make it difficult for coaches in battle for the #2 spot to decide. Just because they bring in a guy I think will push Hardman. It's also contract year up for him. He has a lot to prove but even if he isn't #2 he is a weapon any time he gets the ball in open space he gone!
Nonsense.

If you cloned Hardman and put 2 of him out there at the same time....Cooper would have better numbers then 2 Mecoles.
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Old 03-04-2022, 01:39 PM   #7
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Hardman can beat out Amari Cooper.



Hardman is going make it difficult for coaches in battle for the #2 spot to decide. Just because they bring in a guy I think will push Hardman. It's also contract year up for him. He has a lot to prove but even if he isn't #2 he is a weapon any time he gets the ball in open space he gone!
Oooof.

Gadget player vs career #1 wr and we think the gadget player comes out on top?

Amari Cooper would feast in this offense. Hardman is just as likely to fumble the ball as he is to be completely unaware that the ball is coming to him. Assuming he ran the correct play.

Hardman is fast, and if the guy grows a football brain will be dangerous, but right now he's a disaster waiting to happen.
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Old 03-04-2022, 05:25 PM   #8
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Oooof.

Gadget player vs career #1 wr and we think the gadget player comes out on top?

Amari Cooper would feast in this offense. Hardman is just as likely to fumble the ball as he is to be completely unaware that the ball is coming to him. Assuming he ran the correct play.

Hardman is fast, and if the guy grows a football brain will be dangerous, but right now he's a disaster waiting to happen.
When you consider Hardman is in the absolute best possible scenario for his skillset, it even is more sad. He's a good player, but he'd be even worse on ANY other team.
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Old 03-04-2022, 03:04 PM   #9
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Hardman can beat out Amari Cooper.



Hardman is going make it difficult for coaches in battle for the #2 spot to decide. Just because they bring in a guy I think will push Hardman. It's also contract year up for him. He has a lot to prove but even if he isn't #2 he is a weapon any time he gets the ball in open space he gone!
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Hardman is going make it difficult for coaches in battle for the #2 spot to decide. Just because they bring in a guy I think will push Hardman. It's also contract year up for him. He has a lot to prove but even if he isn't #2 he is a weapon any time he gets the ball in open space he gone!
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Idk...if I'm Jacksonville I'd send a 7th over there. Dallas isn't gonna get much better and they(Jags) just got themselves a top 25 WR.

They have a ton of cap room and no good players are signing there. Might as well get their #1 QB a weapon.
Yeah, definitely.

Send them a 3rd day pick, bring him in and extend him. No, they're not good now, but if they take that OT from 'Bama who's just an absolute horse, they now have 3 absolutely central cogs to an effective offense at QB, LT and WR. Not to mention a nice RB in Robinson. Then they can probably allow Chark to walk and it sets Shenault up nicely to continue to develop as a #2 with a plus veteran opposite him.

The Jags would be wise to make a move here.
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The old “give us anything” for him ploy.
If teams know that Dallas is going to release Cooper then why would they trade anything significant for him?
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If teams know that Dallas is going to release Cooper then why would they trade anything significant for him?
1. He doesn't go to FA where said team will have to bid for his services.
2. His contract becomes non-guaranteed at the time of the trade. $20 million each year in base salary for the next three years.
3. You can rework his deal if you wanted to do that. Or you could see how it goes for a year and then cut him if he isn't working out. It's not like Cooper would sit because he's still getting paid $20 million a season.
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1. He doesn't go to FA where said team will have to bid for his services.
2. His contract becomes non-guaranteed at the time of the trade. $20 million each year in base salary for the next three years.
3. You can rework his deal if you wanted to do that. Or you could see how it goes for a year and then cut him if he isn't working out. It's not like Cooper would sit because he's still getting paid $20 million a season.
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If teams know that Dallas is going to release Cooper then why would they trade anything significant for him?
They aren’t asking for anything significant, though. They would rather get something than cut him and get nothing and they don’t have much time to make that decision.

There are incentives to trading for Amari, too.

He has 3 years left on his current contract with no guaranteed money past year one…so you could trade a late rounder for him and essentially get a 1 year try out and cut him if it doesn’t work out or restructure the deal so the first year cap hit is minimal and then sign an extension after year one that gives the team his services for 2 years at a cheap rate. Lots of flexibility in directions to go.

I know a lot of posters (this, pest, etc) might not like this idea, but if I’m in charge, I’m trying my best to assemble the best offense ever fielded while we have the window open with Andy and Kelce both at the top of their game to try to push all the chips in to win another Super Bowl or 2 and offset with the rising cap hits with draft picks and low dollar free agents.

I’d send Dallas a 2023 5th rounder for Amari and restructure his 20m 2022 cap hit while also signing Tyreek to a 5 year extension with lower cap hits the first 2 years, as well. You do those things while locking up Brown. At that point, every other resource you have in cap and draft picks can be allocated towards building a long-standing talented defense.

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Honestly, I don’t care how popular it is, this offense has a defined window before Kelce loses a step and Andy retires. Let them go out with a huge bang and another couple rings.
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