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Old 03-18-2022, 02:20 PM  
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Old 03-18-2022, 04:20 PM   #331
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3M base and the rest is incentives is quite different.
I know. I was giving you shit because the two posts were basically right next to each other.
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Old 03-18-2022, 04:20 PM   #332
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And again, under this structure it's a fair trade.

Okay, you don't want a LTC deal? Cool - I don't want to guarantee your $10 million then.

We meet in the middle, guarantee only a small fraction of it, get that same year 1 cap relief by plowing the remainder into NLTBE incentives and we move along.

This is a DAMN sight more palatable than $10+ million on a make-good deal.

And it's also why I'm not sure why everyone was so certain it was an amazing deal when it was announced. Most of y'all would get absolutely barbecued at a negotiating table, wouldn't you? It wasn't an amazing deal at $10 million guaranteed and hopefully the demonstration of what a fair deal in this scenario actually is helps some recognize that fact.
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Old 03-18-2022, 04:20 PM   #333
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I mean Juju is smart here. He's banking on his stats being improved because of Mahomes. He'll turn that into a long term deal with someone else next offseason.
Yep huge win win. And who knows... if he likes it here and it works out might even get to keep him for the right price.
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Old 03-18-2022, 04:21 PM   #334
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Outside of his TD total in 2020, his 2019 and 2020 seasons weren't exactly special - but you knew that already.
813 yards and 9 TDs with an aging Big Ben, and competing with talented young guys in Claypool and Johnson for targets is pretty damn good.
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Your entire narrative is built around last season where JuJu played 5 games.

He just had 830 yards and 9 TDs 2 years ago.

This year, he’s was injured, and the Steelers have 2 really young talented WRs that they make more of an effort to get the ball to.

No, JuJu is not as young and talented as those 2 guys.

But he’s much better than Zay Jones and Byron Pringle.
No it isn't, dipshit.
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Outside of his TD total in 2020, his 2019 and 2020 seasons weren't exactly special - but you knew that already.
2019 was his first year as a WR1. That proved that he isn't one.
2020 wasn't horrible but it wasn't top 10 WRs or anything. I'd take 97 receptions for 831 yards and 9 TDs here as a WR2.
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Yep huge win win. And who knows... if he likes it here and it works out might even get to keep him for the right price.
Shit man, Kelce might just retire after next season.

That would clear up a lot of money for JuJu.

You never know.
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Well, he is.

We are discussing the individual's athletic ability, right?

Athletic ability isn't determined by stats and years played.
I'm speaking only to physical attributes.

What exactly does Clay think Pringle is?

Guys - that dude is FAST. And he's very quick.

He just had no earthly idea what he was doing out there because he came out of a lousy offensive system. Then by the time he figured it out, he'd aged out of his prime. Shit happens.

But Pringle has exceptional physical tools. Do y'all not remember the training camp races when he was toasting everyone? My recollection was that he was stride for stride with Hardman, no?

Byron is a fantastic athlete.

SS is a technician.

I really don't understand what's difficult about this or even moderately controversial.
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Old 03-18-2022, 04:22 PM   #339
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Our offense is fine..always has been always will be....JuJu fills a void...Pat wanted a veteran receiver...
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Outside of his TD total in 2020, his 2019 and 2020 seasons weren't exactly special - but you knew that already.
Well he did play with Devin Hodges and mason rudolph
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It’s not 10 million guaranteed…
I am aware.

I'm contrasting reality vs. where the thread started.
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Not a fan of JuJu that's not a bad contract. Don't think this move does much though.
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No it isn't, dipshit.
813 yards and 9 TD’s are perfectly respectable numbers in his situation.

Big Ben already started to drop off and he was competing with 2 young talented guys for targets.
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Makes a bit more sense that it's an incentive-laden contract. Makes me wonder, now, if the Chiefs were less interested in a long-term deal than JuJu.
The $3M base, incentive laden thing changes things quite a bit.

Now all of a sudden we're talking about a very low risk acquisition. Very little actual investment.

Really makes me think they get a shiny new rookie WR.

OR TRADE FOR METCALF MWAHAHAHAHA
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The $3M base, incentive laden thing changes things quite a bit.

Now all of a sudden we're talking about a very low risk acquisition. Very little actual investment.

Really makes me think they get a shiny new rookie WR.

OR TRADE FOR METCALF MWAHAHAHAHA
Still waiting on 4 years, $85 million for Hill.
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