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Old 03-21-2022, 12:06 AM   #1
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Overthecap.com is usually pretty good with showing contracts that are official. These are the new contracts shown by overthecap.com -

JuJu Smith Schuster - $1,035,000 Base, $510,000 Roster Bonus, $250,000 workout Bonus, $2,490,000 fully guaranteed, $2,890,000 Cap.

Frank Clark - $3,725,000 Base, $9,075,000 Bonus, $1,275,000 Roster Bonus, $1,250,000 workout Bonus, $5,475,000 fully guaranteed, $13,700,000 Cap.

Justin Reid - $1,035,000 Base, $3,500,000 Bonus, $15,000 workout Bonus, $20,485,000 fully guaranteed, $4,550,000 Cap.

Andrew Wylie - $2,385,000 Base, $152,500 Bonus, $1,187,500 Cap

Orlando Brown (TAG) - $16,662,000 Base, $16,662,000 Cap

Michael Burton - $1,120,000 Base, $152,500 Bonus, $1,047,500 Cap.

Derrick Gore - $825,000 Base, $825,000 Cap.

Jody Fortson- $825,000 Base, $825,000 Cap.

Deandre Baker - $965,000 Base, $965,000 Cap.

Geron Christian - Not shown yet

Derrick Nnadi - Not shown yet
And with all of those, it only has us at roughly -800,000

I can’t imagine Christian cost much and Nnadi surely utilized that 4 year veteran discount.

One we get a deal done with Tyreek and Brown, we’re going to have plenty of money to make more moves. Just gotta be smart about it.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:27 AM   #2
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Nnadi surely utilized that 4 year veteran discount.
I was thinking about that when we were posting about Andrew Wylie's contract and thought Derrick Nnadi would be perfect for that.

Not so fast.

The NFL will allow a team to use that money for two players, but they have to split the money.

Chiefs used their total amount on Andrew Wylie, so cannot be used for Derrick,

They can still give Derrick a low cost contract, just not use the 4 year veteran money.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:41 AM   #3
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I was thinking about that when we were posting about Andrew Wylie's contract and thought Derrick Nnadi would be perfect for that.

Not so fast.

The NFL will allow a team to use that money for two players, but they have to split the money.

Chiefs used their total amount on Andrew Wylie, so cannot be used for Derrick,

They can still give Derrick a low cost contract, just not use the 4 year veteran money.
I just figured it would automatically split. I’m sure he didn’t get much. I’m glad he’s back. He didn’t get a fair shake last year.
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Old 03-21-2022, 05:14 AM   #4
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Reid has already had his presser and I think Juju's was today.
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Overthecap.com is usually pretty good with showing contracts that are official. These are the new contracts shown by overthecap.com -
Fair points. But I still feel pretty confident that Orlando Brown hasn't signed his franchise tag. So there's 16 mil freed up right at the moment.
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Old 03-21-2022, 05:33 AM   #5
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Fair points. But I still feel pretty confident that Orlando Brown hasn't signed his franchise tag. So there's 16 mil freed up right at the moment.
So even if the player has been tagged, you can use that money until he signs the tag contract? I can't find anything on that, but $16.62M buys you a lot of fringle players.
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Old 03-21-2022, 05:35 AM   #6
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So even if the player has been tagged, you can use that money until he signs the tag contract? I can't find anything on that, but $16.62M buys you a lot of fringle players.
I can't confirm that for sure since the new collective bargaining agreement but that was how it used to work.
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Old 03-21-2022, 06:26 AM   #7
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So even if the player has been tagged, you can use that money until he signs the tag contract? I can't find anything on that, but $16.62M buys you a lot of fringle players.
Correct. No signature, no contract, no cap hit.
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Correct. No signature, no contract, no cap hit.
Once you franchise tag a player, that full amount goes into escrow and is on the cap unless you rescind them tag.

He’s listed for the tag amount on otc.
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Old 03-21-2022, 12:00 PM   #9
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Once you franchise tag a player, that full amount goes into escrow and is on the cap unless you rescind them tag.

He’s listed for the tag amount on otc.
I believe this is correct. The only site that spells it out comes from here: https://dairylandexpress.com/2022/03...ing-cap-space/

Here's the relevant part: They have until March 16th at 3pm central to be under the 2022 salary cap. That March 16th date also includes any other money they add on to their cap like an Adam’s tag.

TLDR: Green Bay can tag Adams by the deadline on March 8th and not have to be in legal standing with the 2022 cap until March 16th.

Adams could hold out all offseason, training camp, and preseason while holding $20 million worth of valuable cap space hostage.
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Correct. No signature, no contract, no cap hit.
That’s not true from what a I’ve read from reputable sources. They can back out of the franchise tag until March 16th. After that, it counts against the 2022 cap until a new deal is reached or he’s off the team.
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That’s not true from what a I’ve read from ruptspke sources. They can back out of the franchise tag until March 16th. After that, it counts against the 2022 cap until a new deal is reached or he’s off the team.
Josh Norman got the tag rescinded on April 20th.

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Josh Norman got the tag rescinded on April 20th.

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I’m going off what I read from “Real” NFL writers. $20 million free cap space effects your ability to make your team better? Why is this not clearer to fans?
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