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Old 03-24-2022, 01:51 PM  
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Old 03-25-2022, 10:46 AM   #526
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How would you feel if we signed Ingram and Gilmore? Packaged 29 and 50 to trade up into the 15-20 range (Eagles have 3 picks there) and got a legit edge? Used 30 to draft a WR? Used 62 on a corner?

Would you then be able to sleep more peacefully at night?
I think Gilmore is done or close to it, Ingram is ok. We are going to have to count on lot of young guys\rookies so it is going to be a struggle IMO.
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Old 03-25-2022, 10:48 AM   #527
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I don't know why this signing has to be related to Hill.

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Is there really not straight line runner in the draft that can be had on the 3rd day?
It relates to hill because as of right now he's our WR1... Sadly.
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Old 03-25-2022, 10:50 AM   #528
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I think Gilmore is done or close to it, Ingram is ok. We are going to have to count on lot of young guys\rookies so it is going to be a struggle IMO.
Seems like a self inflicted struggle.
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Old 03-25-2022, 10:55 AM   #529
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Old 03-25-2022, 10:58 AM   #530
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I think Gilmore is done or close to it, Ingram is ok. We are going to have to count on lot of young guys\rookies so it is going to be a struggle IMO.
Ingram is okay? Seriously? Did you see what happened to our defense when he showed up?

Gilmore was a top-20 CB last year according to PFF. I know that has plenty of flaws, but please let me know what you're using to judge him so we can compare notes.
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Old 03-25-2022, 10:58 AM   #531
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Seems like a self inflicted struggle.
I think on offense we will be relatively ok considering. Defense on the other hand could get ugly
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Old 03-25-2022, 10:58 AM   #532
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No way did we have 2 to 3 years with how we were going.

You re-sign Hill and that eats a ton of cap space next year. You take up more cap space with an OBJ deal.

Even if you trade Jones next offseason and cut Clark....you're still sitting at MAYBE $30 million cap space and a roster that consists of around 25-30 players. At some point we have to field an actual team.
If you care about cap space next year you don't restructure Frank Clark and have him cost $9million next year. I don't buy that shit. I'd rather have Hill and his cap hit and maybe restructure that than have Frank Clark count $9million against the cap when he's not even going to be on the team next year. Hell shouldn't be on the team this year...
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I don't know why this signing has to be related to Hill.

I'm sitting here just looking at what this guy offers and saying

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Is there really no straight line runner in the draft that can be had on the 3rd day?


Even before we traded Hill guys like Eric Eager were clamoring for the Chiefs to sign MVS to take the top off the cover 2 and open things up underneath. He does something Hill didn't even do apparently, don't ask me to explain that one though.
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Ingram is okay? Seriously? Did you see what happened to our defense when he showed up?

Gilmore was a top-20 CB last year according to PFF. I know that has plenty of flaws, but please let me know what you're using to judge him so we can compare notes.
Yeah but he was also on the field when we couldn't pressure the worst O-line in the NFL. Ingram is ok. I'd like to re-sign him but only as a rotational guy. There's no ****ing reason we should go into the season with him and Clark starting.
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If you care about cap space next year you don't restructure Frank Clark and have him cost $9million next year. I don't buy that shit. I'd rather have Hill and his cap hit and maybe restructure that than have Frank Clark count $9million against the cap when he's not even going to be on the team next year. Hell shouldn't be on the team this year...
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Explain why keeping a $9 cap hit for Frank Clark who won't even be on a team is a good thing but a $20-30 for a top 2 WR who will give you elite production isn't.

They'll be paying MVS and Clark $19mil next year and one of them won't even be here.
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I think on offense we will be relatively ok considering. Defense on the other hand could get ugly
Good thing we're absolutely flush with high draft picks, huh?
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Explain why keeping a $9 cap hit for Frank Clark who won't even be on a team is a good thing but a $20-30 for a top 2 WR who will give you elite production isn't.

They'll be paying MVS and Clark $19mil next year and one of them won't even be here.
Clark was going to cost $7M against the cap next year if we cut him now. They increased his dead cap by just over $2M and saved $12M this year.
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I really know nothing about him as I don't follow college ball at all but have we all forgotten that we drafted Powell last year? Where will he slot into the receiver room?
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