Chiefs Chiefs Sign WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling - Page 38

Dante84 · 03-24-2022, 01:51 PM

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The #Chiefs are signing former #Packers WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling to a three-year, $30 million deal with $18 million in the first two years and incentives to reach a maximum of $36 million, his agents @NSAFootball tell @RapSheet and me. ��
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htismaqe · 03-25-2022, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah I'll take having Hill over the piece of shit return we got. Especially when we'll have to use one of those tops picks to get a WR that we hope is as almost as good as hill (hopefully not as good, can't afford to pay that!).

A first round draft pick will be 1/10 the cost (or more) of Hill for FIVE years.

You're up a tree man. Time to get somebody to help you down.

**The Franchise** · 03-25-2022, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

I mean, you could try to respond to the point I made.

Hill
Juju
Hardman
2nd round pick or 3rd round pick

MVS
Juju
Hardman
1st round or 1st + another pick WR

I pick the former everytime. And in both scenarios we still have a 1st round pick to improve the DLine

You aren't spending a 2nd round pick on a WR in that first scenario because you need every available draft pick for defense.

KChiefs1 · 03-25-2022, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

0 drops last year. BUT HIS CATCH RATE!

How many INT’s did Tyreek cause last year? 3-4?

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htismaqe · 03-25-2022, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

You aren't spending a 2nd round pick on a WR in that first scenario because you need every available draft pick for defense.

Exactly.

staylor26 · 03-25-2022, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Making a player that is arguably the best WR in football the highest paid WR in football isn't giving someone a blank check.

That’s exactly what it is. We can’t just keep paying everybody the highest at their position, especially guys close to 30.

If we paid Tyreek and the injuries started piling up over the next 3 years while our defense sucks, people like you would be bitching about that too.

That decision isn’t made in a vacuum either. The draft picks that allow them to fill their holes and build a better overall roster for the long term are part of this equation too.

It was obviously a tough decision. The Chiefs didn’t want to trade Tyreek. They just had to choose.

TwistedChief · 03-25-2022, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

I mean, you could try to respond to the point I made.

Hill
Juju
Hardman
2nd round pick or 3rd round pick

MVS
Juju
Hardman
1st round or 1st + another pick WR

I pick the former everytime. And in both scenarios we still have a 1st round pick to improve the DLine

Others have already responded to the problems with your simplistic, limiting scenarios but I'll add that there's no way the top tier edge rushers are available at 30.

TwistedChief · 03-25-2022, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

How many INT’s did Tyreek cause last year? 3-4?

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The answer is 3.

**The Franchise** · 03-25-2022, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

That’s exactly what it is. We can’t just keep paying everybody the highest at their position, especially guys close to 30.

If we paid Tyreek and the injuries started piling up over the next 3 years while our defense sucks, people like you would be bitching about that too.

That decision isn’t made in a vacuum either. The draft picks that allow them to fill their holes and build a better overall roster for the long term are part of this equation too.

It was obviously a tough decision. The Chiefs didn’t want to trade Tyreek. They just had to choose.

Let's be honest. King is going to literally bitch about everything that is done.

-King- · 03-25-2022, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

That "holy shit they scare the shit out of me" offense won us how many titles? One. Why? Because we didn't have a defense in 2018. Because no depth on the offensive line in 2020 and because Mahomes shit himself at the worst possible moment in 2021.

So we're guaranteed to have a defense now? Was the problem in our defense that we didn't spend money on it or was that problem that we had a bunch of underperforming players especially pass rushers?

And if the defense was the problem why bring the worst member back and give him new money and add to his dead money for when he's cut?

-King- · 03-25-2022, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

Let's be honest. King is going to literally bitch about everything that is done.

I didn't bitch about letting Mathieu go or signing Reid. I called that a really good signing.

But yeah, I'm going to bitch when we trade one of the best players in football period from a position we're already struggling at. I guess I'm just weird like that.

**dirk digler** · 03-25-2022, 11:43 AM

Looking at our current depth chart on defense we need:

LDE: Starter

6 backup's with 3 of those being safeties.

**The Franchise** · 03-25-2022, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

So we're guaranteed to have a defense now? Was the problem in our defense that we didn't spend money on it or was that problem that we had a bunch of underperforming players especially pass rushers?

And if the defense was the problem why bring the worst member back and give him new money and add to his dead money for when he's cut?

Did I say we're guaranteed to have a defense? But now we have 8 picks in the top 135 to add to that defense.

I'm not going to explain to you the whole Frank Clark situation. It's been talked about plenty of ****ing times. Go do some god damn research about it.

Sassy Squatch · 03-25-2022, 11:44 AM

They didn't have to trade him for a shitty return though, which unfortunately we did.

htismaqe · 03-25-2022, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

So we're guaranteed to have a defense now? Was the problem in our defense that we didn't spend money on it or was that problem that we had a bunch of underperforming players especially pass rushers?

Guaranteed? No.

But with 2 1st's and 2 2nd's, we have more than double the chance to get a premier pass rusher in the draft AND still fill holes at WR and DB. You simply cannot dismiss our ability to trade up because that's exactly what this trade enabled.

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Originally Posted by -King-

And if the defense was the problem why bring the worst member back and give him new money and add to his dead money for when he's cut?

Because it netted us $11M in cap space over 2 years. This really isn't hard to understand at all.

htismaqe · 03-25-2022, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

They didn't have to trade him for a shitty return though, which unfortunately we did.

They made the best of a bad situation. Tyreek had some pretty strict parameters for trade partners, namely that he wanted to be in Miami period.

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03-25-2022, 11:43 AM	#566
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