Chiefs The roster as it stands - Page 10

Phoneix · 02:29 PM

My 2022 Game 1 roster guesses:

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buechele
RB - CEH/McKinnon/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - MVS/ Hardman/Watson
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Fountain OR Coleman
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Wylie/Christian
RG - Smith/Caliendo
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretii
LT - OBJ

O = 26

LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Dunlap
WLB - Bolton/Harris
MLB - Gay/Carter
SLB - Lee/Chenal
LCB - McDuffie/Fenton/Lammons
RCB - Sneed/Williams/Watson
SS - Reid/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush

D = 24

ST
Butker
Townsend
Winchester

PTW- PS
Crum - PS
Franks - Release
Ealy - Release
Fleet-Davis - PS
Jones - Release
Gore - PS
Powell - PS
Gordon - Release
Kinnard - PS
Niang - IR
Bootle - PS
Key - Release
Barcoo - Released
Johnson - Released
Anderson - PS
Kaindoh - PS

Just trying to keep up....makes it a little more clear to be able to see needs/wants

QB - Mahomes/Henne/Buchele
RB - CEH/Jones/Gore/Pacheco
FB - Burton
WR1 - Hardman/MVS/Coleman/Dieter
WR2 - Juju/Moore/Gordon/Powell/Fountain
TE - Kelce/Bell/Gray/Fortson
RT - Niang/Wylie/Christian/Kinnard
RG - Smith
C - Humphrey/Reiter
LG - Thuney/Allegretti
LT - OBJ/PTW
LDE - Karlaftis/Danna
LDT - Nandi/Wharton
RDT - Jones/Saunders
RDE - Clark/Kaindoh
WLB - Harris/Chenal
MLB - Bolton/Carter
SLB - Gay/Lee
LCB - Fenton/McDuffie/Bootle/Watson
RCB - Sneed/Baker/Williams/Barcoo/Johnson
SS - Reid/Key/Cook
FS - Thornhill/Bush/Anderson

Salaries in the spoilers

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Originally Posted by Wilson8

I really like this roster and think with the draft, it is really going to be looking good.

Below I am showing the Chiefs roster along with their contracts. Also added within each position group, a draft slot that we have and what the Chiefs MIGHT be able to draft with that position.

I'm not married to the results. I know we can trade and move around. Just want to show a possibility.

Offense -

Quarterbacks (3/2)
• 15 Patrick Mahomes, Age 26, 6-3, 227, (2022 $35.8M, 2023 46.8M…2031 $52.5)
• 4 Chad Henne, Age 37, 6-3, 215, ($3,265,000)
• 6 Shane Buechele, Age 23. 6-0, 208, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)

Running backs (5/5) Draft (135) Ty Chandler, North Carolina, Rachaad White, Arizona State, Tyler Badie, Missouri, Pierre Strong, South Dakota State, or Dameon Pierce, Florida

• 45 Michael Burton FB, Age 29, 6-0, 243, (2022, $1,047,500)
• 25 Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Age 22, 5-8, 205, (2022 $2.9M, 2023 3.4M)
• Ronald Jones II, Age 25, 5-11, 208, (2022 Max $5M)
• 40 Derrick Gore, Age 27, 5-10, 207, (2022 ERFA $825)
• Brendon Knox, Age 23, 5-11, 220, Signed to Futures contract $705

o 1 Jerick McKinnon Age 29, 5-9. 201, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 31 Darrel Williams, Age 26, 5-11, 219, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Wide receivers (13/6) Draft (29) Drake London, USC, Chris Olave, Ohio State, Treylon Burks, Arkansas, Skyy Moore, Western Michigan, or Jahan Dotson, Penn State

• 17 Mecole Hardman, Age 23, 5-10, 180, (2022 $4.399M)
• 11 Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Age 27, 6-4, 206 (3yr $30M)
• 9 JuJu Smith-Schuster Age 25, 6-1, 215 (2022 $2.89M)
• Corey Coleman, Age 27, 5-10, 185, (2022 $965K)
• 19 Josh Gordon, Age 30, 6-3, 238, Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 12 Gehrig Dieter, Age 28, 6-3, 208 Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 82 Daurice Fountain, Age 26, 6-1, 212 Re-signed to Futures contract $965K
• 14 Cornell Powell, Age 24, 6-0, 210 Re-signed to Futures contract $705K
• Chris Finke, Age 25, 5-10, 184, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Justin Watson, Age 25, 6-3, 215, Signed to Futures contract. $895K
• Omar Bayless, Age 25, 6-1, 210, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Mathew Sexton, Age 24, 5-11, 175, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Gary Jennings, Age 24, 6-1, 216, Signed to Futures contract. $825K

o 10 Tyreek Hill, Age 27, 5-10, 185, Miami Dolphins 4yr $120M
o 13 Byron Pringle, Age 28, 6-1, 201, Chicago Bears 1yr $4.125M
o 11 Demarcus Robinson, Age 27, 6-1, 202, Las Vegas Raiders 1yr $1,187M
o 85 Marcus Kemp Age 26, 6-4, 208, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Tight ends (9/3) Draft (121) Jelani Woods, Virginia, Jeremy Ruckert, Ohio State, Charlie Kolar, Iowa State, or Jelen Wydermyer, Texas A&M

• 83 Noah Gray, Age 22, 6-4, 243, (2022 $903K, 2023 $1.018M, 2024 $1.133M)
• 87 Travis Kelce, Age 32, 6-5, 256, (2022 $8.9M, 2023 $14.65M, 2024 $16.4M, 2025 $18.65M)
• 88 Jody Fortson, Age 26, 6-6, 240 (2022 ERFA $825K) PUP/IR
• 81 Blake Bell, Age 30, 6-6, 260, (2022 ?)
• 48 Nakia Griffin-Stewart, Age 25, 6-5, 260 Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 80 Mark Vital TE, Age 25, 6-5, 250, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Jordan Franks, 6-4, 250, Signed to Futures contract. $825 K
• Josh Pederson, Age 24, 6-5. 235, Signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 84 Matt Bushman, Age 26, 6-5, 245, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K

Offensive Linemen (12/10) Draft (94) Kellen Diesch, Arizona State. Cordell Volson, North Dakota State, Rasheed Walker, Penn State, Max Mitchell, Louisiana, or Braxton Jones Southern Utah Late round (251) Austin Deculus, LSU

• 73 Nick Allegretti G, Age 25, 6-4, 315, (2022 $1.003M)
• 57 Orlando Brown Jr. T, Age 25, 6-8, 363, (2022 Tag, $16,6M) Contract Projection: ($21M per year).
• 52 Creed Humphrey C, Age 22, 6-5, 309, (2022 $1.264M. 2023 $1.517M, 2024 $1.770M)
• 67 Lucas Niang T, Age 23, 6-6, 339, (2022 $1.071M. 2023 $1.207M, 2024 $1.321M) PUP/IR
• 65 Trey Smith G, Age 22, 6-6, 329, (2022 $857K. 2023 $972K, 2024 $1.087M)
• 70 Prince Tega Wanogho T, Age 24, 6-5, 303, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)
• 62 Joe Thuney G, Age 29, 6-5, 304, (2022 $8.1M. 2023 $22.1M, 2024 $22.6M, 2025 $22.6M)
• 77 Andrew Wylie T/G, Age 28, 6-6, 310, (2022 $1,187,500)
• Geron Christian OT, Age 26, 6-5, 303, (2022 $1,047,500)
• 64 Darryl Williams C, Age 24, 6-2, 304, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Roderick Johnson OT, Age 26, 6-6, 300, Re-signed to Futures contract. $965 K
• Austin Reiter, Age 30, 6-3, 300 (2022 ?)

o 66 Austin Blythe C, Age 29, 6-2, 280, Seattle Seahawks 1yr $4M
o 69 Kyle Long G, Age 33, 6-6, 332, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 75 Mike Remmers T (IR), Age 32, 6-5, 301, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8

I really like this roster and think with the draft, it is really going to be looking good.

Below I am showing the Chiefs roster along with their contracts. Also added within each position group, a draft slot that we have and what the Chiefs MIGHT be able to draft with that position.

I'm not married to the results. I know we can trade and move around. Just want to show a possibility.

Offense -

Quarterbacks (3/2)
• 15 Patrick Mahomes, Age 26, 6-3, 227, (2022 $35.8M, 2023 46.8M…2031 $52.5)
• 4 Chad Henne, Age 37, 6-3, 215, ($3,265,000)
• 6 Shane Buechele, Age 23. 6-0, 208, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)

Running backs (5/5) Draft (135) Ty Chandler, North Carolina, Rachaad White, Arizona State, Tyler Badie, Missouri, Pierre Strong, South Dakota State, or Dameon Pierce, Florida

• 45 Michael Burton FB, Age 29, 6-0, 243, (2022, $1,047,500)
• 25 Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Age 22, 5-8, 205, (2022 $2.9M, 2023 3.4M)
• Ronald Jones II, Age 25, 5-11, 208, (2022 Max $5M)
• 40 Derrick Gore, Age 27, 5-10, 207, (2022 ERFA $825)
• Brendon Knox, Age 23, 5-11, 220, Signed to Futures contract $705

o 1 Jerick McKinnon Age 29, 5-9. 201, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 31 Darrel Williams, Age 26, 5-11, 219, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Wide receivers (13/6) Draft (29) Drake London, USC, Chris Olave, Ohio State, Treylon Burks, Arkansas, Skyy Moore, Western Michigan, or Jahan Dotson, Penn State

• 17 Mecole Hardman, Age 23, 5-10, 180, (2022 $4.399M)
• 11 Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Age 27, 6-4, 206 (3yr $30M)
• 9 JuJu Smith-Schuster Age 25, 6-1, 215 (2022 $2.89M)
• Corey Coleman, Age 27, 5-10, 185, (2022 $965K)
• 19 Josh Gordon, Age 30, 6-3, 238, Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 12 Gehrig Dieter, Age 28, 6-3, 208 Re-signed to Futures contract, $895K
• 82 Daurice Fountain, Age 26, 6-1, 212 Re-signed to Futures contract $965K
• 14 Cornell Powell, Age 24, 6-0, 210 Re-signed to Futures contract $705K
• Chris Finke, Age 25, 5-10, 184, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Justin Watson, Age 25, 6-3, 215, Signed to Futures contract. $895K
• Omar Bayless, Age 25, 6-1, 210, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Mathew Sexton, Age 24, 5-11, 175, Signed to Futures contract. $705K
• Gary Jennings, Age 24, 6-1, 216, Signed to Futures contract. $825K

o 10 Tyreek Hill, Age 27, 5-10, 185, Miami Dolphins 4yr $120M
o 13 Byron Pringle, Age 28, 6-1, 201, Chicago Bears 1yr $4.125M
o 11 Demarcus Robinson, Age 27, 6-1, 202, Las Vegas Raiders 1yr $1,187M
o 85 Marcus Kemp Age 26, 6-4, 208, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

Tight ends (9/3) Draft (121) Jelani Woods, Virginia, Jeremy Ruckert, Ohio State, Charlie Kolar, Iowa State, or Jelen Wydermyer, Texas A&M

• 83 Noah Gray, Age 22, 6-4, 243, (2022 $903K, 2023 $1.018M, 2024 $1.133M)
• 87 Travis Kelce, Age 32, 6-5, 256, (2022 $8.9M, 2023 $14.65M, 2024 $16.4M, 2025 $18.65M)
• 88 Jody Fortson, Age 26, 6-6, 240 (2022 ERFA $825K) PUP/IR
• 81 Blake Bell, Age 30, 6-6, 260, (2022 ?)
• 48 Nakia Griffin-Stewart, Age 25, 6-5, 260 Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 80 Mark Vital TE, Age 25, 6-5, 250, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Jordan Franks, 6-4, 250, Signed to Futures contract. $825 K
• Josh Pederson, Age 24, 6-5. 235, Signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• 84 Matt Bushman, Age 26, 6-5, 245, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K

Offensive Linemen (12/10) Draft (94) Kellen Diesch, Arizona State. Cordell Volson, North Dakota State, Rasheed Walker, Penn State, Max Mitchell, Louisiana, or Braxton Jones Southern Utah Late round (251) Austin Deculus, LSU

• 73 Nick Allegretti G, Age 25, 6-4, 315, (2022 $1.003M)
• 57 Orlando Brown Jr. T, Age 25, 6-8, 363, (2022 Tag, $16,6M) Contract Projection: ($21M per year).
• 52 Creed Humphrey C, Age 22, 6-5, 309, (2022 $1.264M. 2023 $1.517M, 2024 $1.770M)
• 67 Lucas Niang T, Age 23, 6-6, 339, (2022 $1.071M. 2023 $1.207M, 2024 $1.321M) PUP/IR
• 65 Trey Smith G, Age 22, 6-6, 329, (2022 $857K. 2023 $972K, 2024 $1.087M)
• 70 Prince Tega Wanogho T, Age 24, 6-5, 303, (2022 $825K, 2023 ERFA)
• 62 Joe Thuney G, Age 29, 6-5, 304, (2022 $8.1M. 2023 $22.1M, 2024 $22.6M, 2025 $22.6M)
• 77 Andrew Wylie T/G, Age 28, 6-6, 310, (2022 $1,187,500)
• Geron Christian OT, Age 26, 6-5, 303, (2022 $1,047,500)
• 64 Darryl Williams C, Age 24, 6-2, 304, Re-signed to Futures contract. $705 K
• Roderick Johnson OT, Age 26, 6-6, 300, Re-signed to Futures contract. $965 K
• Austin Reiter, Age 30, 6-3, 300 (2022 ?)

o 66 Austin Blythe C, Age 29, 6-2, 280, Seattle Seahawks 1yr $4M
o 69 Kyle Long G, Age 33, 6-6, 332, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned
o 75 Mike Remmers T (IR), Age 32, 6-5, 301, (2022 Free Agent) unsigned

BlackOp · 03-28-2022, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

The roster clearly isn't as strong as it has been in recent years, at least prior to the draft.

However, looking at the roster situation of other AFCW teams they are likely going to follow a similar path in a year or two. Overthecap currently has the Chargers at $8.6 million in 2023 cap space prior to the draft. That number doesn't include Derwin James and Justin Herbert will be extension eligible after this year. Tillery, Adderly, and Tranquill are other starters that are UFA. They're going to be in a cap crunch in short order, they only have 29 players under contract for 2023 and little cap room.

Denver has around $16 million, but it's also a given that Russell Wilson will need to be signed to a huge extension as 2023 is the last year of his contract and he's only set to make $27 million. Bradley Chubb is also a free agent.

LV might seemingly be in the best cap situation, but they also only have 21 players under contract for next year and Carr is a free agent. Good luck paying that sack of shit $40+ million a year as his market will command. Waller probably also needs a new contract, and overall their roster still isn't that great even with Carr, Adams, and Waller. We've also seen that WR can fall off fast after 30, so good luck in LA and LV with both Adams and Allen set to turn 30 this year.

This is good post...dont forget both Vegas and Denver have entirely new coaching staffs.

I would never do what the Raiders did...pay a record premium for an older WR from a team with a perennial MVP QB. Mahomes got Albert Wilson payed...haven't heard his name since.

How good will Adams be with Carr? He has to be the very best/completely dominate (Randy Moss) to justify what he cost...I think he'll be good but the return on that deal has about a 2% chance of being justified. Raiders arent competing for a SB anytime soon...dumb move from every angle. Carr might be kicked to the curb after this season...McDaniel inherited him and his contract is up.

Are they really going to throw $40+ million at a guy who has never won a play-off game?

Chiefs are ahead of the curve...they have two drafts this year and the best QB in the NFL under contract.

rabblerouser · 03-28-2022, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Do you think 129 yards in 5 games is good or something?

He was injured and had Broke Dick Ben Rapenbooger and his popgun arm, it's amazing he had that much production.

If you had any capacity for abstract thought you'd be able to grasp the concept of context.

But you don't.

rabblerouser · 03-28-2022, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

This is good post...dont forget both Vegas and Denver have entirely new coaching staffs.

I would never do what the Raiders did...pay a record premium for an older WR from a team with a perennial MVP QB. Mahomes got Albert Wilson payed...haven't heard his name since.

Interested in how DRob and Pringle pan out in their new homes as well.

Carr isn't near the caliber QB Mahomes and Rogers are.

**Rausch** · 03-28-2022, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoneix

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**Rausch** · 03-28-2022, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I wonder how many GM's said it was stupid to sign a $9 safety before locking up your best player.

You give Hill an extra $6mil, you draft a S, and don't lose your best player on offense...

TomBarndtsTwin · 03-28-2022, 04:08 PM

Obviously, we will miss Tyreek this year on offense, but I like the overall construction of our roster right now. Have room to play and possibility of an elite draft haul.

The other 3 teams may have a little window against us for the next 2 years (and they better take advantage while they have the chance), but if Veach and our scouts hit right and put together a couple good drafts between this year and next, we're gonna go on another 5-6 year run of dominating this division.

Will be a thing of beauty.

Time to get work done, Burt and Co.!!

TwistedChief · 03-28-2022, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I wonder how many GM's said it was stupid to sign a $9 safety before locking up your best player.

You give Hill an extra $6mil, you draft a S, and don't lose your best player on offense...

LOL. Yup, that’s the decision that was made. It was Reid or Hill.

**Rausch** · 03-28-2022, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

LOL. Yup, that’s the decision that was made. It was Reid or Hill.

The Chiefs acted like they were surprised Hill wanted to be paid. Come on. They're not that stupid. Of course he wanted to get that big contract.

The truth is a bad Frank Clark contract locked up some cap. Pat could have converted like $16 million to give us space. They knew they were doing this. This wasn't a surprise they just want us to think it was...

rabblerouser · 03-28-2022, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

LOL. Yup, that’s the decision that was made. It was Reid or Hill.

Did anyone besides us read that Peter King article at all?

TwistedChief · 03-28-2022, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Did anyone besides us read that Peter King article at all?

Rausch kant reid.

staylor26 · 03-28-2022, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Would you rather have MVS and Frank Clark for $19mil next year or Hill for $23?

As if this post wasn’t dumb I enough already, the details of MVS contract make it even worse.

I used to just give you a lot of shit because you are a contrarian.

Now you’re just ****ing dumb.

Chris Meck · 03-28-2022, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

The Chiefs acted like they were surprised Hill wanted to be paid. Come on. They're not that stupid. Of course he wanted to get that big contract.

The truth is a bad Frank Clark contract locked up some cap. Pat could have converted like $16 million to give us space. They knew they were doing this. This wasn't a surprise they just want us to think it was...

No, I think you've got it all wrong here.

Of course Hill wanted to be paid, he just went higher than The Chiefs felt it was prudent to go.

Clark's contract is an issue, but it's sunk cost, and it helped get us a SB win, so whatever. It was almost as cheap to keep him now as to cut him, so who cares?

The Chiefs aren't blowing any smoke up anyone's asses; they offered Hill a boatload, just not a big enough boatload.

Converting Pat's deal forward is more of the old way. This is the New Way. The Old Way was Pat on a rookie deal, get the pieces you need at whatever cost and go win a SB. The New Way is-Pat's getting paid, be prudent with free agency, trade high when you can and stockpile picks to fill your roster with young, cost controlled talent.

You're going to have to get used to it. This is how you stay a contender for decades. You don't do it making anyone other than Mahomes that huge chunk of your cap.

Veach did the prudent, smart, ballsy move. He set a line and when that wasn't enough for Hill, he moved him for a king's ransom. The team overall is in much healthier shape now moving forward.

We 'MIGHT' have a slight downyear, although I'm not conceding that at all. The next 5 years, however, should have a re-loaded Chiefs kicking the crap out of everyone else in the AFC that'll be entering cap hell because they were desperately trying to match us.

I think it's brilliant. It's a big swing of a bet on our scouting, coaching, and front office-but it's the only way to really build a dynasty with the salary cap. It's what The Patriots did. This is The Way.

TwistedChief · 03-28-2022, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

No, I think you've got it all wrong here.

I think it's brilliant. It's a big swing of a bet on our scouting, coaching, and front office-but it's the only way to really build a dynasty with the salary cap. It's what The Patriots did. This is The Way.

A lot of words here, but wouldn't you rather have Hill than Clark and MVS?!

-King- · 03-28-2022, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

He was injured and had Broke Dick Ben Rapenbooger and his popgun arm, it's amazing he had that much production.

If you had any capacity for abstract thought you'd be able to grasp the concept of context.

But you don't.

So were the other receivers in Pittsburgh. They all played with the same shit qb. Had different results though...

staylor26 · 03-28-2022, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

So were the other receivers in Pittsburgh. They all played with the same shit qb. Had different results though...

Did you expect the corpse of Big Ben to be good enough to support 3 WRs putting up big #s?

The fact that you choose to focus on a 5 game sample size as opposed to 2020 says everything about your miserable existence.

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TomBarndtsTwin MVP Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $2269883	Obviously, we will miss Tyreek this year on offense, but I like the overall construction of our roster right now. Have room to play and possibility of an elite draft haul. The other 3 teams may have a little window against us for the next 2 years (and they better take advantage while they have the chance), but if Veach and our scouts hit right and put together a couple good drafts between this year and next, we're gonna go on another 5-6 year run of dominating this division. Will be a thing of beauty. Time to get work done, Burt and Co.!!
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