The roster as it stands

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by -King-

You guys are so full of shit

1 draft pick in the top 60<3 in the top 50

You realize that the Chiefs would only have like 30 players on the roster right? As it stands now it’s 22 not counting the draft. The money and draft picks available will easily accommodate filling the other 23 spots.

You also realize Tyreek alone is like 40% of the cost of that freed up money yes? You also need probably around $8 million for a larger draft class as well. So that’s about $40 million alone with those two, basically half.

Then there’s Orlando Brown Jr who they want to get done this year. His cap hit will probably be at least $17 million in 2023

So that leaves you with only $24 million. Then you have your own FA’s. Juju, Thornhill, Hardman, Wylie, Bush, Fenton.

So your plan leaves us with only $24 million for our own players as well as any external.

Just one player like Christian Kirk is over $7 million cap hit year one. Any good players will cost money.

I’m sorry basic math is not your strong suit

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by RunKC

1 draft pick in the top 60<3 in the top 50

You realize that the Chiefs would only have like 30 players on the roster right? As it stands now it’s 22 not counting the draft. The money and draft picks available will easily accommodate filling the other 23 spots.

You also realize Tyreek alone is like 40% of the cost of that freed up money yes? You also need probably around $8 million for a larger draft class as well. So that’s about $40 million alone with those two, basically half.

Then there’s Orlando Brown Jr who they want to get done this year. His cap hit will probably be at least $15 million in 2023

So that leaves you with only $25 million. Then you have your own FA’s. Juju, Thornhill, Hardman, Wylie, Bush, Fenton.

So your plan leaves us with only $25 million for our own players as well as any external.

Just one player like Christian Kirk is over $7 million cap hit year one. Any good players will cost money.

I’m sorry basic math is not your strong suit

It’s not basic math that isn’t his strong suit. It’s basic understanding.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by RunKC

1 draft pick in the top 60<3 in the top 50

You realize that the Chiefs would only have like 30 players on the roster right? As it stands now it’s 22 not counting the draft. The money and draft picks available will easily accommodate filling the other 23 spots.

You also realize Tyreek alone is like 40% of the cost of that freed up money yes? You also need probably around $8 million for a larger draft class as well. So that’s about $40 million alone with those two, basically half.

Then there’s Orlando Brown Jr who they want to get done this year. His cap hit will probably be at least $17 million in 2023

So that leaves you with only $24 million. Then you have your own FA’s. Juju, Thornhill, Hardman, Wylie, Bush, Fenton.

So your plan leaves us with only $24 million for our own players as well as any external.

Just one player like Christian Kirk is over $7 million cap hit year one. Any good players will cost money.

I’m sorry basic math is not your strong suit

You're talking to a guy who wanted to cut Clark and line up UDFA's at edge.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

You're talking to a guy who wanted to cut Clark and line up UDFA's at edge.

Why do you keep forgetting about me saying I would draft a first round DE? How convenient?

And what were your plans to replace Clark? You were for it until we brought him back.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by -King-

Why do you keep forgetting about me saying I would draft a first round DE? How convenient?

And what were your plans to replace Clark? You were for it until we brought him back.

Because FACTS happened. I don't know why you don't understand that.

The difference between keeping Clark and cutting his is like $1.2m. You can't replace even his very pedestrian production for anywhere near that. And it makes cutting him next year if you want more palatable too.

You wanted to line up a rookie first rounder and a bunch of UDFA scrubs. That's a recipe for disaster. I don't know about you, but I'm really tired of watching the likes of Sorensen and Niemann taking meaningful snaps.

You wanted to restructure everyone and push all the money forward; and the bill comes due, ya know. Then you're screwed, and your stars walk and you've got nothing. Welcome to Seattle.

It's a matter of short term view vs. long term view.

And the short term view is: Look, it's been two years of not good enough. Why are we tripling down on this? Everyone else went all in and loaded up to beat WASP. Now THEY will all be forced to make difficult decisions a couple of years down the road, when we'll be cruising on a bunch of young talent.

The long view is that trading Hill gives us a real chance to BE that dynasty. Keeping Hill...probably not. We're already in diminishing returns. Not because Hill isn't great-but because we can't field enough quality players all around him. What's the point? There isn't one.

I was against it until I realized 1)just what a haul we'd get and 2)Just what keeping him was going to mean in the future.

this is the smart play.

Rip the band-aid off.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by RunKC

1 draft pick in the top 60<3 in the top 50

You realize that the Chiefs would only have like 30 players on the roster right? As it stands now it’s 22 not counting the draft. The money and draft picks available will easily accommodate filling the other 23 spots.

You also realize Tyreek alone is like 40% of the cost of that freed up money yes? You also need probably around $8 million for a larger draft class as well. So that’s about $40 million alone with those two, basically half.

Then there’s Orlando Brown Jr who they want to get done this year. His cap hit will probably be at least $17 million in 2023

So that leaves you with only $24 million. Then you have your own FA’s. Juju, Thornhill, Hardman, Wylie, Bush, Fenton.

So your plan leaves us with only $24 million for our own players as well as any external.

Just one player like Christian Kirk is over $7 million cap hit year one. Any good players will cost money.

I’m sorry basic math is not your strong suit

You made that post before the trade. Before the trade you thought that we had a bunch of ammo. Now suddenly it wasn't enough? Which is it?

And no, this was your plan and math. In your scenario, you not only resigned Hill, but you were able to fill out the defense and have a pretty decent depth chart. Guess you and everyone else had no idea what you were talking about in regards to the cap huh? Your own math showed 27mil in cap space even before the Tyreek deal and/or Mahomes restructure. Were you just pulling shit out of your ass?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by -King-

You made that post before the trade. Before the trade you thought that we had a bunch of ammo. Now suddenly it wasn't enough? Which is it?

And no, this was your plan and math. In your scenario, you not only resigned Hill, but you were able to fill out the defense and have a pretty decent depth chart. Guess you and everyone else had no idea what you were talking about in regards to the cap huh? Your own math showed 27mil in cap space even before the Tyreek deal and/or Mahomes restructure. Were you just pulling shit out of your ass?

Yes I did think that. And then reality happened. We didn’t spend in FA, Mahomes didn’t restructure his contract again and we are still stuck with Frank but freed up a little money compared to what many of us thought was going to be a ton for a June 1st cap hit. I also didn’t realize we were really low on players in general, especially in 2023.

Then the entire division becomes significantly better. And then Christian Kirk broke the WR market for JAG’s which lead to Davante Adams breaking it open for highest paid and suddenly us thinking Tyreek was going to cost $25 million became $30 million.

So yeah. A lot of things have happened since that post to change the landscape of everything.