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Old 03-23-2022, 09:37 PM  
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Old 04-01-2022, 02:45 PM   #241
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I don't care which WR we get as long as it isn't Treylon Burks
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Old 04-01-2022, 02:45 PM   #242
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I don't care which WR we get as long as it isn't Treylon Burks
In all sincerity, why? Because he tested poorly? He might be the most NFL-ready WR in this draft.
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Old 04-01-2022, 02:51 PM   #243
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In all sincerity, why? Because he tested poorly? He might be the most NFL-ready WR in this draft.
Because I don't like the looks of most of this





And I worry about getting a guy like this, a surefire bonafide star
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Old 04-01-2022, 02:51 PM   #244
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Ah, man why? That's the dude I absolutely want:



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Old 04-01-2022, 02:52 PM   #245
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I knew he would point to his RAS score.
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I was asked why, I showed my work. Your opinion on it is of no consequence to me
It’s lazy.

Your aren’t presenting it as a concern, which would be fair, but instead as if it’s some kind of deal breaker.

If that’s a deal breaker for you, you clearly haven’t watched him play.

He’s not a guy that you watch and come away concerned about how he will test, hence why it was a little disappointing . He plays much faster than he times, as evidenced by him pulling away from SEC DBs at 6’2”225 lbs.
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Old 04-01-2022, 02:58 PM   #248
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The problem is you get an opinion on a player and act as if anyone who disagrees is an idiot.

There are busts every year. Sometimes you can see it coming and sometimes you can't.

This is the reason I think he'll get blanketed by defenders and will be especially bad in the moments where the play breaks down and Mahomes is looking for a guy to just get open and freestyle.
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The problem is you get an opinion on a player and act as if anyone who disagrees is an idiot.

There are busts every year. Sometimes you can see it coming and sometimes you can't.

This is the reason I think he'll get blanketed by defenders and will be especially bad in the moments where the play breaks down and Mahomes is looking for a guy to just get open and freestyle.
And you got all that from an image…
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Could he be good? Most certainly! But we have one shot at this and a ton of options. This kind of thing pushes him out for me.

I was also told that CEH plays faster than he tests. Welp.


and when you compare his numbers I don't like this very much






JJ Arcega-Whiteside had 14 touchdowns his junior year, declared for the draft and articles like this were made pre-draft


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...est-hidden-gem


I would like to avoid being the Eagles with our first round WR
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The problem is you get an opinion on a player and act as if anyone who disagrees is an idiot.

There are busts every year. Sometimes you can see it coming and sometimes you can't.

This is the reason I think he'll get blanketed by defenders and will be especially bad in the moments where the play breaks down and Mahomes is looking for a guy to just get open and freestyle.
Usually the busts come from the combine super stars who move up based on what they did in shorts.
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Burks is a tough one because his film shows him as faster than he tests.

He's a soft body WR with a thick lower half, but surprisingly didn't test as strong as you'd think. His vertical, bench, 3-cone and 40 are pretty meh.

But on tape, the dude runs away from defenders and is strong during the catch.

Real hard to judge that guy.

I have what I like in a WR, but i understand that just because a guy isn't what I like doesn't mean he won't be good.

With that said, i'm not sure he's what the Chiefs like.
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The good news is I trust Veach to pick the right guy and I'm sure even if he doesn't pick the best one he'll at least be good.


I wish Hardman was DK but also Hardman is pretty dang good and getting better.
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Could he be good? Most certainly! But we have one shot at this and a ton of options. This kind of thing pushes him out for me.

I was also told that CEH plays faster than he tests. Welp.


and when you compare his numbers I don't like this very much






JJ Arcega-Whiteside had 14 touchdowns his junior year, declared for the draft and articles like this were made pre-draft


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...est-hidden-gem


I would like to avoid being the Eagles with our first round WR
If you’re seriously comparing Burks to JJ Arcega-Whiteside, then you definitely have not watched him play.

Also, him playing faster than he times is supported by him having the fastest (or one of the fastest) recorded MPH on a play last year.
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On that play, the 6'3", 225-pounder was clocked running 22.6 miles per hour. No play in the NFL featured a faster speed last season. Only two plays were faster the year before.
It’s not just the eye test. Dude clearly plays faster than he times, and it’s not really debatable.
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